What makes a Nazi?
The user’s manual for today’s
pro-Hamas demonstrators
If you have any doubts that we live in a revised version of 1930s Germany, you need only open your eyes for only a few seconds and read these stories below. The list is hardly comprehensive, as it only provides a small sampling of the vicious, violent, and hateful demonstrations, riots, and violence that began after October 7th in support of the rape, torture, and murder by Hamas of more than 1,400 Israelis, many of whom were women and children, and have since morphed into an anti-Jewish compaign designed to intimidate and oppress Jews everywhere, merely because they are Jews.
- Alabama students met with ‘death threat’ after hosting memorial for Hamas victims
- Antisemitic Mob Shows Up for Biden Fundraiser, Vandalizes Jewish Neighborhood
- Palestinian Protesters Tell Jews Leaving Israeli Embassy ‘We Will Kill You All, Occupiers’
- Jewish students at Columbia U, Ithaca College, Ohio State face swastika, ‘intifada’ calls
- California menorah tossed in lake by vandals who left antisemitic graffiti
- Pro-Hamas mob targets Jewish restaurant owner in Detroit
- Hundreds of US synagogues receive bomb threats as spree continues despite arrests
- Rabbi at Harvard Claims School is Forcing Jewish Student Group to Lock Up Menorah at Night for Fear of Vandalism
The mob in front of the Israeli embassy in the third link above made very clear, in blunt chants, what all these pro-Hamas demonstrators want, as well as who they are:
A cadre of pro-Palestinian protesters told Jews leaving a Hanukkah celebration at the Israeli Embassy, “We will kill you all.” Video of the horrifying incident went viral on social media on Tuesday, which showed a Jewish man walking down the street as a car drove past him with two people waving a Palestinian flag out the window while shouting, “We will kill you all, occupiers.”
In a social media post, Jonathan Allen, government relations for the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), said that they also shouted, “We were ‘Nazis like Hitler.’” [emphasis mine]
You will note also that only this demonstration at the Israeli embassy was actually protesting Israel’s actions in Gaza directly. All the others simply focused on threatening people simply because they are Jewish, even though they have literally no connection to events in Gaza, and even less say.
Essentially, these mobs are nothing more than a new collection Nazi storm-troopers. The Jews are their scapegoat, and their actions are fueled by bigoted hate that has no connection to rationality or civilized behavior.
Nor have these mobs only attacked Jews. Christians have been victims as well, such as when a mob stormed a mall in Ottawa on December 17th: Anti-Israel Activists Surround and Terrorize Line of Kids Going to See Santa at Mall. In this case these brownshirts screamed vile chants at little children and their parents, who were simply there to see Santa.
What makes a Nazi?
These new Nazis are not identical to the Nazis under Hitler, but they carry many of the same attributes. It is helpful for civilized people to recognize these traits, so that we can effective oppose these insane tyrants while learning how to act differently.
These facts are too difficult for our modern Nazis
to process
Courtesy of Doug Ross.
First, they are ignorant. For example, when asked what locations the chant “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” refers to, less than half the students screaming this chant could name the river or the sea.
Some of the alternative answers were the Nile and the Euphrates, the Caribbean, the Dead Sea (which is a lake) and the Atlantic. Less than a quarter of these students knew who Yasser Arafat was (12 of them, or more than 10%, thought he was the first prime minister of Israel). Asked in what decade Israelis and Palestinians had signed the Oslo Accords, more than a quarter of the chant’s supporters claimed that no such peace agreements had ever been signed.
To put it simply, those who join these mobs calling for the murder of Jews (or any other group) generally haven’t the faintest idea what they are supporting.
Second, that ignorance allows their beliefs to be based, not on facts, but on irrational emotions. A rational, civilized person doesn’t normally gather in a crowd and chant slogans. Instead, you read up on the subject and think about it. This thoughtful approach allows one to come to reasonable conclusions.
Nazi-like protesters however are not interesting in thinking. They are certain they are right, and thus it is time to harness their emotions to impose their ignorant conclusions on all, through shouting, intimidation, and violence if necessary.
Third, those emotions are focused on the hatred of groups of people. With both the 1930s Nazis as well as these Hamas supporters, the group targeted are Jews, but it could just as well be blacks in the Deep South, Armenians in the Ottoman empire, or Tutsis in Ruwanda. In every case these bigots decide that some people of a certain race, religion, or ethnicity is morally and physically inferior, are the cause of all the world’s problems, and must be eliminated unmercifully.
Finally, these new Nazis are similar to the old Nazis in that both are and were part of a collective political movement from the left side of the political spectrum. Remember, the offical name of Hitler’s movement was “national socialism“, with many leftist goals that are indistinguishable from the goals of today’s left.
The Austrian monarchist Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn proposed that the 25-point Program was pro-labour: “[T]he program championed the right to employment, and called for the institution of profit sharing, confiscation of war profits, prosecution of usurers and profiteers, nationalization of trusts, communalization of department stores, extension of the old-age pension system, creation of a national education program of all classes, prohibition of child labour, and an end to the dominance of investment capital”.
Nor do the modern pro-Hamas movement’s links to Islam change this. Islamic thinking is also as collective in thinking and as bigoted against anyone who is not Muslim.
The bottom line is that Nazi-like movements gather to them ignorant, emotional individuals who need to be part of a monolithic group, united in their belief that because others are the cause of all their problems, they must be eliminated, by any means necessary. In today’s world organizing such a movement has become even easier than in 1930s Germany, because it is so simple to link up via social media, and then use that media to schedule large demonstrations and violent protests.
And so, American now live in a world of Nazi storm-trooper tactics. Once such behavior would have been so thoroughly and immediately condemned that it would have stopped almost instantly. Now, we cower in fear of it, and do little to stop it — just as did the Germans in 1930s.
If we don’t start standing up forcefully with courage — as free Americans once did without hesitation — the bad guys are going to win totally, if they have not done so already.
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Hitler: The Rise of Evil (2003)
“you must decide, will it be peace or war”
https://youtu.be/1qhdLbeNc9k?t=9641
I think a lot of Americans look at 1930s and 1940s Germany and wonder how could that happen in a western nation.
The events over the past two months have gone a long way in my understanding of that history, things no longer seem so distant or implausible.
Really running out of words on the current state of the country.
John: Americans today wonder how this could happen here, because they really don’t think or care about it enough. Nor do they appear to have the courage to act.
Past generations of Americans, especially before 1970, cared about these issues deeply, and would never have allowed anything like this to happen. They did not like bullies, and were not afraid to stand up to them. Thus, the bullies knew better than to act out.
There will likely not be anything like what happened in Germany as long as the US never experiences truly extreme economic issues. I mean serious hard times, like the nation has not had since the 1930’s. A world war could also do it. Those who argue otherwise tend to point out individual exceptions. They also compare the poorest of the poor today to the top 10% of the population in 1945. Likewise, it is misleading to point to a decline in real wages in the last few decades. This need not lead to a depression era average standard of living.
What we are seeing now in the US is NOT like Germany between the world wars. What Zimmerman is reacting to is more analogous to the Macarthy era persecution of Communists. The same is true for most persecutions motivated by political correct propaganda. Its effects will be relatively mild until and unless the masses experienced horrible times and need some easy target to blame. In that case we really could be like Hitler’s Germany. But that would require extreme hard times, NOT something like COVID or the Vietnam war.
Cloudy: Hm. I wonder if you could find similar examples of rioting and aggressive outright bigotry that we see today in the 1950s, except in the Deep South. I doubt it. If anything, the McCarthy era was when the civil rights movement was gaining real steam over most of the country, and was in fact pushing hard into the Deep South to force change there.
To me, you have blinders on.
Robert,
Exactly what do you think we should do, specifically, to stand up to these bullies? Before the 1970s, before the hippies, we civilians did not need to stand up to the bullies, because the school administrations and teachers would not put up with it. The police would not stand idly by. The politicians would not let the police stand idly by, and the courts would have thrown the book at them.
Today, the people we have hired to provide for domestic tranquility are failing us. They have taken the side of the bullies and have become part of the bullying population and movements. The courts we hired to peaceably resolve disputes are just letting the bullies back out on the streets, allowing them to continue their actions, letting them know that they have yet reached the level of evil that would make the courts rein them back.
What exactly do we do to stand up to the bullies without winding up in jail ourselves?
I ask again, what should the German civilians have done to stop their NAZIs after they gained the power? Our Nazis are now in power and have the authority over us. What lesson should we learn from Germany, almost a century ago, that we can apply now to save freedom and liberty?
When such a protest happens at a university or other location, what actions should we take in order to successfully stand up to them rather than be January 6th-ed by the very police and judges that are on the Nazi side?
Edward: To be honest, I haven’t the faintest idea what can be done, and in fact, I had concluded after the 2020 election that we almost certainly face collapse before recovery. I always hope my pessimistic predictions are wrong, and this one is especially dire, so I have tried not to underline it.
We are no longer a moral society, which in itself is the fundamental problem. Too many people see no reason to act morally, and so they don’t. And that includes all the individuals running our institutions that you list.
Mr. Zimmermann:
To answer your question about what National Socialism is: It is a political movement that combines left and right elements at the same time. It is not for nothing that the National Socialists themselves call it the third way. National Socialism rejects both capitalism (or the liberalism behind it) and communism. Yes, the leaders of nationalism called themselves socialists, but they did not mean the egalitarian socialism of the communists. National socialism is based on a mythical nationalism.
Was National Socialism Fascist? It’s also a question that isn’t really easy to answer in just a few words. Yes and no. Interestingly, reputable historians say that Hitler’s National Socialism was more similar to Stalin’s Soviet state than Mussolini’s fascist state in terms of state organization.
As for Israel today, it is fair to say that it is an apartheid state (identified by various organizations) in which the extreme right currently holds power. Should we call them als Nazis?
John:
One can argue about how the term “West” should be historically defined in geopolitical terms. Today it is practically identical to the sphere of influence of the US empire. In my view, before the end of the Second World War, Germany was not part of this “West” as you suggest, but rather stood alone between East and West, with ties to the West (France, England, etc.), but also to the East (Russia, etc.) . According to the US political scientist Friedman (2015), one of the main goals of US foreign policy over the last 120 years has been to draw Germany towards the West rather than towards the East, i.e. to prevent Germany and Russia from coming together closely.
“If we don’t start standing up forcefully with courage — as free Americans once did without hesitation — the bad guys are going to win totally, if they have not done so already.”
Robert, “standing up forcefully with courage” means shooting them on sight, because force is all they respect. Not “norms”, not laws: force.
Until enough people are willing to acknowledge that, and act on it, they will win because otherwise they will not stop.
Is it tragic? Yes. Is it necessary? Yes.
It is going to suck if you are the baby that gets thrown out with the bath water but that is going to happen. Be smart and don’t put yourself in harms way as best you can.
SDN–
being careful what I say–yes, it’s going to get a LOT weirder, before it gets better, innocents will suffer in the conflagration, but the guilty must be punished, or it’s all over, for everyone.
“These are the times that try men’s souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.”
“Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.”
V for Vendetta – The Dominoes Fall
https://youtu.be/yde6t4WG5uY?t=112
“With so much chaos, someone will do something stupid, and when they do, things will turn nasty. And then {the democrat party} will be forced to do the only thing they know how to do…..”
Cloudy–
The thing with Joseph McCarthy– the US Government WAS infiltrated by soviet communists, and had been since the 1920’s, whether it was soviet agents, fellow-travelers, or useful idiots.
FDR’s entire administration was riddled with communists,
McCarthy was not the perfect vessel, but his underlying premise was always true.
Prof. Jordan Peterson Analyzes Nazi Propaganda Film: “Der Ewige Jude,” (1940)
https://youtu.be/xTy1tUi1IlA
22:34
(excerpt from: “2017 Personality Lecture 20: Biology & Traits – Orderliness/ Disgust/ Conscientiousness”)
This is a spiritual war. What a privilege to be alive at this moment in history. There are still 7,000 who have not bowed their knees to Baal.
“Cloudy: Hm. I wonder if you could find similar examples of rioting and aggressive outright bigotry that we see today in the 1950s, except in the Deep South. I doubt it. If anything, the McCarthy era was when the civil rights movement was gaining real steam over most of the country, and was in fact pushing hard into the Deep South to force change there.”
I will throw this in here because the subject is bigotry and where we have come from. The question remains, where exactly are we now going?
NORMAN LEARS CAUSE OF DEATH REVEALED
“And that is “progressive” progress in today’s America. Sounds like a bunch of meat heads to me.”
https://www.sigma3ioc.com/post/norman-lear-s-cause-of-death-revealed
Robert,
It is a difficult question to answer. As far as I know, no people have successfully rescued themselves from a forming tyranny, so we have no examples to follow or to learn from. The closest thing that I know of was Tiananmen Square, although that tyranny was already four decades established. Where did they go wrong, and how do we avoid a similar disaster?
The United States rescued itself from a long-term tyranny, but that required violence, some temporary loss of morality, and a declaration as to why the revolution was deemed necessary to demonstrate that there were legitimate grievances. If we must resort to violence, then it should be organized violence to retrieve our freedom and liberty. Also, a similar declaration is necessary, otherwise it looks like some sort of spontaneous, ill considered insurrection.
What we really need is some sort of peaceful resistance or counter revolution. Gandhi succeeded, but once again, that was against an established tyranny, and in addition, it was already conducive to setting colonies free.
We are dealing with marxists, whose purpose is not to be moral but to use any means necessary to screw the people they rule, sometimes to the point of starvation. They believe in central control rather than individual liberty. They believe that if they let their people make their own decisions, to make their own choices, they will choose wrong every single time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkZcEJBcLmU (2 minutes, “The Giver”)
serendipitously…
Hunley / Groubert
America’s Untold Stories (December 19, 2023)
“Gangsters Vs. Nazis in NY”
https://youtu.be/B0IFysdR1qo
1:30:41
“In this episode of America’s Untold Stories, we delve into the fascinating story of Meyer Lansky, the notorious mobster who played a pivotal role in thwarting Nazi infiltration in America before & during World War II. Born in Poland, Lansky immigrated to the United States with his family when he was just a child. As a young man, he quickly fell into a life of crime, eventually becoming one of the most powerful figures in the American mafia. But despite his criminal connections, Lansky was fiercely patriotic and deeply committed to protecting his adopted country from its enemies. When Judge Nathan D. Perlman wanted to disrupt meetings of the German American Bund in NYC, he contacted Lanksy behind the scenes…”
“It is a difficult question to answer. As far as I know, no people have successfully rescued themselves from a forming tyranny, so we have no examples to follow or to learn from. ”
But the Founders knew what would someday come and that is what they attempted to design to counter act.
What do you do when the thing that was designed to keep you from becoming a tyranny becomes the weapon that those who seek your “Transformation” against you in order that they can become authoritarian and tyrannical?
We are about to find out.
Cotour
I’d be more confident if the 16th and 17th amendments weren’t in full force. Once those two firewalls were breached, it was just a matter of time.
I can name a coup that was overthrown before it managed to take hold.
Major General Smedley Butler exposed a fascist coup plot that aimed to take over America in the 1920’s-30’s.
A small group of high profile Americans approached Butler and asked him to lead the coup. However, as a patriotic US Marine officer he went public and stopped the coup before it could happen.
Did anybody go to jail, of course not… it’s only illegal if YOU do it.
Granted, that is the only coup that I can name that was intercepted and overthrown before it was acted out by the traitors, providing that was not staged in of itself to manipulate and prep Americans for WWII against fascists ???
(Meanwhile, Prescott Bush was happily bank managing Nazi finances and selling supplies to an enemy in a time of war 1942)
There are also events that happened at sea during the African slave trade era. Some slaves managed to break free and take over the entire ship, that could not have been easy but, they managed it.
They did not abolish the slave trade, they merely reformed it. Now we all wear modern slave chains, no matter what color we are, but they are harder to see. as chains. Usury debts from the banks are the heaviest modern chains.
Germany lost WWII but, the Nazis only changed venue. They did not hang them all, they employed as many as they could find. eg. NASA Von Braun and his 200+ team of war criminals, CIA Klaus Barbie.
Many criminals were kept safe for 8 years in jail, then when the WWII dust settled, they were given top CEO positions. Some were even made political leaders.
Now we see WWII Nazis in the Canadian Parliament, and at least 1 descendant of a WWII war criminal in Canadian politics.
Rank hypocrisy and an insult to all allied vets, many of whom did not survive the war. What a cold callous insult to their memory.
There are always things that we can do.
Boycott is one great option, run as independent candidates is another, acts of sabotage is another.
McDonald’s and Starbucks are financially hurting because they support the evil Zionists genociding the Palestinians, murdering Palestinians is an act of antisemitism in of itself.
Good ethical people just stopped buying McD’s and Starbucks.
It’s that simple, don’t buy it.
America’s Untold Stories
Eric Hunley / Mark Groubert (March, 2022)
“Who Was Major General Smedley Butler?”
https://youtu.be/FKgNOOWStiI
1:29:19
WARNING : Civilization Is A Very Thin Veneer. Humans can seriously damage your health.
Nazi mentality is a mental illness that, unfortunately, does not get recognized as such. (same can be said of all forms of bullies in general)
Regrettably, it is very common in society, it is a serious danger to the general public. How many school shootings were caused because of years of relentless bullying toward the shooter ?
It is not a German exclusive event and nor did Germany invent sadistic fascism, it is quite common in the world.
eg. American treatment of colored folk and native Americans for several centuries to present day, English empire treatment of natives in annexed colonial nations (even toward the Irish and Scots), Israeli genocide and their general antisemitism toward the Palestinians etc. (Ashkenazi – Nazi yet nobody is connecting the dots). Israel are the worst offenders of antisemitism in the world, they irrationally hate everybody… they even hate real Jews !
Ukrainian Nazis, many of them are even Jewish ! How is that even possible post Operation Barbarossa !? WTF !?
Eugenics, was not even a Nazi German exclusive, that was started much earlier in Britain by non other than a very close relative of Darwin !
Death camps were around before the Nazis, the 1800’s Boer War and Native American tribes all suffered that fate. Gaza is the most modern day equivalent to a death camp.
Nobody asks “who financially bankrolled the Nazis” or “how many Nazis did we, the “Allies”, hire post WWII, and where were they hired?” etc.
It is now clear that WWII was a scam, evidently we are ok with Nazi war criminals. All the allied nations were fighting each-other to hire them post 1945. We are ok with genocide and death camps etc. Our society is is plastic, all show and no substance, all the moral fibre of Jack the Ripper (a Polish Jew barber in London). The only eye witness that saw Jacks face refused to give evidence to the police because he was also Jewish. That is messed up, humans are a sick species.
We are ok with psychopaths, so long as it’s our psychopaths on a leash, eg the CIA puppet Pol Pot and Klaus Barbie etc.
What did we learn from that sadistic era… nothing. Instead, it was exploited to the max. “Never let a good crisis go to waste”, and that is “our leaders” philosophy/agenda.
Humans are not as sophisticated as they delusionally like to believe.
Civilization is a very thin veneer.
The Nazis are back, who will be the next Hitler ?
Wayne
“War Is A Racket”
Butler also wrote a book about the criminal banks, but that is much harder to get a copy of at my local book stores.
As several people brought up the subject here:
The Communists that flooded New York in the 1920’s were mostly Bolshevik Jews who instigated the brutal 1917 coup in Russia. New York is still under their control. Many of these Bolsheviks became big time gangsters during the prohibition era.
There was also British secret service involved in the 1917 coup. It is alleged that one Brittish agent was the one that murdered Rasputin.
Lennin was also a German. The Zionists and Nazis collaborated many times together, they even minted a coin together.
Mad hatter Stalin killed more people than all the other nations managed to, by a large margin. The man was as insane as he was brutal.
In saying that, Russia were the ones that did all the heavy lifting to beat Nazi Germany, we only helped them and then stole all the credit.
Then we hired all the evil Nazis post war time after pretending to the world that they would all face justice and be executed for war crimes.
Note that only Germany was accused of war crimes, even though the Allied nations were just as guilty.
It’s a mad world.
David C:
You are beginning to sweep away the mist and cobwebs of confusion that most people intellectually cripple themselves within.
https://www.sigma3ioc.com/post/what-is-really-going-on-strategy-over-morality
ALL and every government and in whatever form it has ever taken on planet earth is and was NEVER about truth, sanity and rational thought. It’s always about the further acquisition of and the retention of POWER.
From S.O.M.: “CONCLUSION: The public lives and operates under a subjective moral code or within a “Pedestrian Realm” perspective which they assume their leadership which exists within the “Political Realm” is constrained by. This is a subjective false perspective conclusion on the part of the public. Leadership at its existential core is not about morality, truth and honesty. Politically empowered Political Realm leadership is ultimately about the fundamental exercise of power and “IT’s” subjective agenda interests and “IT’s” political power prevailing. And within this Strategy Over Morality model the potential for the abuse of power related to the Pedestrian Realm perspective is ever present.”
Cotour
20/20 vision for the most part but, there are still a few patches of battlefield fog of war for me to clear out.
I was raised (during the Cold War period) with the standard spoon fed Western WWII propaganda wool but, I woke up to that and to the flag rag waving mentality that brainwashes the exploited masses.
As seen in the movie They Live, I have a nice pair of critical sunglasses.
Sunglasses may come in handy as our lunatic State is trying to instigate a nuke war with Russia (CIA currently interfering with Pakistan who also has a nuke) just to kill off the “overpopulation” ?
I lost relatives in that war that the criminal organization “The League Of Nations”, (now called the “UN”), schemed to happen post WW I.
Most people don’t know that they intentionally setup and crippled Germany to fail in post wartime and then, very conveniently, Hitler magically appears to save the day using the standard political empty promises we hear in every “election”, in every nation. Then the dirty backstabbing League Of Nations blamed Germany for everything that followed.
A nefarious premeditated Zionistic diseased mindset to play with the world toy.
I blamed Germans when I was a naive kid for killing my relative (KIA in Africa), but now I see much clearer. It was our own “Allied” State cronies to blame for interfering with other nations by staging coups and global bank wars etc.
That’s not quite how WWII is painted in the State indoctrination establishment we call “school” or via the manipulative propaganda machine we now call the “MSM”.
“I try not to let school get in the way of a good education.” (Quoted by several people, Mark Twain among other disputed sources)
A dire public warning from the past :
1920’s Germany was in such a desperate mess that the gaslighted public easily fell for it.
So, pay very close attention to who is around at our Machiavellian themed election times in 2024 and beyond, if there is a beyond 2024.
These wars are planned decades before they happen. Meanwhile they manipulate/groom the public who will be made to fight and die in said wars for their masters private financial gain and sadistic psychotic enjoyment.
So, you can well imagine how livid I am toward our current corrupt Western despot governments never ending warmongering and pro genocide policies that our families fought and died for to prevent in WWII.
How many idiots went to be mercs in Ukraine after the MSM brainwashing and too much time playing games like Call of Duty?
How many terrorist do we have in our society that go to Zionist Israel to indulge and partake in the sadistic war crimes of murdering civilians ?
Mass murdering unarmed women and children !
They do it with pleasure and impunity from prosecution.
No Gitmo for those terrorists ???
Yet we are expected to be “shocked” at the latest school shooting ?
Ironically, who are the Nazis now ?
In retrospect :
WW I The Germans were the good guys.
WW II Every nation was the bad guy.
WW III We all die, even those that delusionally think they are safe in their “reserved only for the elite” nuke bunkers.
Note that there are no public nuke shelters.