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“Yeti” DNA found to come from bears and dogs

Scientists analyzing DNA samples said to come from either the legendary yeti in the Himalayas or sasquatch in North America have found that all come from known ordinary animals, mostly bears.

Of the nine “yeti” samples, eight turned out to be from bears native to the area, the researchers report today in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B. The other sample came from a dog. Similar studies of hair samples supposedly related to North America’s big hairy hominid, the sasquatch (aka Bigfoot), have revealed that those fibers came from bears, horses, dogs, and a variety of other creatures—even a human.

Debunking aside, the new study also yielded lots of scientifically useful info, Lindqvist says. The analyses generated the first full mitochondrial genomes for the Himalayan brown bear (Ursus arctos isabellinus) and the Himalayan black bear (Ursus thibetanus laniger), for example. That could help scientists figure out how genetically different these rare subspecies are from more common species, as well as the last time these groups shared maternal ancestors in the past.

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  • wayne

    Joe Rogan
    “Bigfoot, Gigantopithecus, And Gorillas…”

  • Cotour

    Just like the UFO controversy human beings have throughout history told stories of observing or interacting with both UFO’s and “Sasquatch”. This is not an exclusively modern phenomenon. An interesting video clip. A very interesting clip from a live Yellowstone camera in the middle of winter.

    One has to ask: Why then in the modern world with the level of technology that now exists to record and conduct analysis, where is the rock solid proof for both? I want the proof. I want the bones, I want to see the unadulterated pictures and videos, I want the blood tests, I want the DNA etc, etc, its a long list. Where the heck is it!? Has it been recorded but its just so unbelievable that no one will believe it because they rightly assume its fake or the evidence is doctored?

    You can go through a lot of these videos and they are plainly, lets say, contrived BS. But there are others, although few, that are much more interesting. The problem is that the recording technology available today is a double edged sword, manipulation can be a desk top while eating popcorn endeavor.

    What would the best eventuality be? The Zman on a caving expedition with his wife, far from civilization, and they see and record one or better yeti both phenomenon. I have to wonder how this evidence of either would be introduced here on BTB and verified to the world. A potential scientific conundrum for sure.

    Make sure you have your recording devices with you Zman, I have a feeling your going to need them :)

  • Ray

    In your heart you know it’s flat

  • wayne

    Joe Rogan and Michael Shermer on “Flat Earthers”

  • Cotour

    And I will bet you were upset at Trumps comments about “Pocahantas” the other day.

  • wayne


    Highly recommend the full Navajo Code Talker presentation. These guys love Trump, and Elizabeth Warren deserves to be shamed & ridiculed for ever claiming she had American-Indian ancestry

  • wayne

    Joe Rogan with Mike West;
    “Eclipses, Hollow Earth, and glitches in the Matrix.”

  • Cotour


    The American Indians all described and had names for it.

    And they have been here for many thousands of years. If it does not exist then what is everyone for thousands of years across cultures seeing and apparently interacting with? Im just asking questions here.

  • Cotour

    Are the Yeti and Sasquatch related?

    (If they indeed do exist)

  • wodun

    I am agnostic on cryptids. We do find things thought not to exist from time to time, even if Big Foot isn’t one of them. But have you ever seen a moose in the wild? These are massive creatures and they can be nearly impossible to see even when right in front of you. Somehow, we can get a lot of good moose pictures though ;-)

  • Cotour

    Related: A flying Yeti / Big foot?

    Scientifically like it or not, credible people have apparently witnessed both “Sasquatch” and UFO’s. In this case a highly experienced fighter pilot encounters and observes something flying 100 miles off shore and way outside of the technical performance parameters that he is very well aware of, he is flying just about the best we have.

    Was this a set up to test out some high level technology and monitor the pilots reaction to it? (Do we really have technology that performs at this level?) Was it truly an unknown craft flying well outside of our ability? If so, who built it and or what is it? No wings, no rotors, no nothing.

    All good reasonable questions that at this moment in time have no concrete answers, just like credible people encountering “Sasquatch” in the woods.

    If you only test the fur of a bear the only DNA result that will be found will be the DNA of a bear.

  • Cotour

    Harry Reid secretly spent $20 plus million to find out what these things were and if they were a threat to the country.

    The result? They found nothing.

    Q: How can something documented and observed be nothing?

  • Cotour

    Sadly we learn that Koko the gorilla has died at 46 years old. We have all watched her gently communicate through sign language with her handlers and many others.

    I included this very interesting digital analysis of the 50 year old Gimlin film by M.K. Davis, still probably the best and most detailed film to date, very interesting. Look closely, does not look like a suite to me. The two ladies look very similar.

    Play it again. 1 min.

  • wayne

    …the sign-language alas, was a learned response but not self initiated “language” per se.

    Joe Rogan – I Was Convinced Bigfoot Was Real!

  • Cotour


    Koko learned to communicated with humans using human sign language, do we believe that gorillas do not communicate between themselves in the wild? No, they are extremely intelligent and must have a fairly high degree of communication that probably lends itself to human sign language.

    And, there certainly are some more than questionable “Sasquatch” videos, but this Gimlin film is especially interesting when you are able to apply digital analysis

    Don’t look like a suite to me. Watch it again.

  • Cotour

    I wonder what a high IQ NASA photo expert would make of 1. The film and information on it and 2. The technique of analysis being applied.

    On that last clip, the feet are white, which gives great detail, apparently because the loggers that occasionally work there throw calcium down to solidify the road because it gets very wet.

    I know, it sounds crazy, but it is what it is. Whats crazier, the thought that Trump would beat Hillary for the presidency, or the validity of this film analysis and information?

  • Cotour

    A man running quickly up hill in deep snow on a 9500 foot high mountain? (Man?)

    No man can run effortlessly at that rate going uphill in deep snow on a mountain like that.

    Can you do that? I know I cannot.

    ??????? Interesting to say the least.

  • Cotour: Did you notice how that person left no tracks? Mediocre digital manipulation, at best. Dumb, no matter what.

  • Cotour


    Interesting none the less.

    Someone will isolate it and analyze it in detail and determine what is what.

  • Cotour

    Ask and you shall receive??????? :)

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