Civil War museum closes rather than remove its Confederate flags


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The coming dark age: A Civil War museum is forced to close when Virginia county officials ordered them to remove all Confederate flags.

A Henry County commissioner requested a few months ago that a local Civil War museum remove its Confederate flags.

But without that symbol, the Nash Farm Battlefield and Museum announced that it can’t conduct its mission properly and will close June 1. In a Facebook post, the museum’s directors cited the request by District 2 Commissioner Dee Clemmons that all Confederate flags be removed from the museum, in addition to the gift shop, “in an effort not to offend anyone.”

“To exclude any Confederate flag would mean the historical value has been taken from our exhibits, and a fair interpretation could not be presented to each guest,” the post read. “Confederate flags were on this hallowed ground, as were the Union flags. To remove either of them would be a dishonor.”

In other words, it is better now for people to be ignorant of history so that they might avoid looking at a flag.

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23 comments

  • wayne

    in lighter news– I heard the chocolate ration, is being increased to 25 grams next week.

    Who Controls the Past, Controls the Future
    https://youtu.be/oe9I0QhV08w
    (6:42)

  • Garry

    I guess this means we have to close all the holocaust museums now, because they display Nazi uniforms, flags, etc.

  • Alex

    @Wayne: Despite, these hateful, real fascist activities, in the so-called land of the free: We will never forget your Confederate heroes. A good way to achieve this objective, is to sing Confederate songs. I love these songs.

    Dixie

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__kQX12S9YI

    THE IRISH BRIGADE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ot7amDyqbY&list=RDQMbLFwbmezdD8

    WEARING OF THE GREY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XVsEVW4x_Q&index=6&list=PLuxfKFwwTllClfsR5gCXaTY0HbKU7eZSm

    The Bonnie Blue Flag

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-3WAhbulFs

  • wayne

    Garry–
    well stated.

  • Alex

    I would like to add this piece from Canadian immigrant to the topic:

    5 reasons not to ban the Confederate flag

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbvDRY0O30E

  • wayne

    Alex-
    Gavin as always good.

  • Joe

    Wayne, nice reference to1984! Memory hole for sure.

  • wayne

    Joe–
    they always claim, to raise the chocolate ration… that’s when you can tell they are lying.

    Alex– referencing the Civil War
    Plenty of good people died on both sides.

    Neil Young & Crazy Horse
    Jesus’ Chariot (She’ll Be Coming Round The Mountain)
    https://youtu.be/0NghGoIdv-E
    (4:43)

  • wodun

    The current focus on the Confederate flag has nothing to do with the Civil War but rather trying to impose collective guilt and punishment on the people who live in the South now, who bear no responsibility for slavery. It is all part of a deliberate strategy to dehumanize and punish the South since they stopped voting for Democrats in the last 17 years.

  • wayne

    wodun–
    Well said.

  • wayne

    Dinesh D’Souza
    “What if their Plan, is to Steal America?”
    https://youtu.be/r7e6gLht6OQ
    (3:09)

  • Edward

    Changing history or not acknowledging historical facts is not acceptable for a museum. These actions may be acceptable for a politician, but a museum has a mission to preserve history, the bad along with the good. A museum does not exist in order to not offend anyone, as plenty of offensive actions have happened throughout history, but perhaps politicians exist to avoid offending someone. Those offensive actions must also be recorded and preserved, otherwise how would the politician know to be offended by the Confederate flag?

    The violation of the basic purpose of any museum is why the museum in Henry County closed.

    And why aren’t the feelings those who have actually been offended by the removal of the flags not a concern of the stupid politician?

    When the politicians and the government are the ones determining the history, well, wayne described the result of that. The government steals history and even the country itself.

  • wayne

    Edward-
    Good stuff.
    >Short, sweet, and to the point

    Holy cow. We had a huge, deadly, all encompassing Civil War, right on American soil. Brother against Brother. That is our History and I don’t want or need Mastermind’s rewriting history to suit their devious machinations.
    I want it all; the good, the bad, and the ugly.
    If we don’t remember the Past, we will surely repeat the mistakes, and as a Conservative, I value the lessons of the past.

  • Alex

    @Edward:

    How defines, which part of history is good and which is bad? This thinking reminds me to communist/leftist ideology.

    There is only the view of the victor, who tries to rewrite true historical path, often successful. Not, only the South is victim of such doing, but also Germany for example. Imagine, the Confederation had won the Civil war. How different history is now told and Lincoln is being judged.

  • pzatchok

    Call it an art museum and watch them try to stifle free speech.

    That flag was an artistic expression of the southern solder.

  • wayne

    pzatchok– call it an art museum…. Great stuff!

  • Edward

    Alex wrote: “How defines, which part of history is good and which is bad? This thinking reminds me to communist/leftist ideology.

    There is only the view of the victor, who tries to rewrite true historical path, often successful.

    Which is why a museum wants to present both sides of a dispute, preferably without judgement. Why did the presented event happen? Why did the dispute get decided in the way it did and how did the decision change the world?

    The politician involved in this story is trying to suppress the story of the Confederate states. In fact, the reality of the situation seems to have been lost on far too many people, who think that it was pure racism rather than an inheritance from the days of English rule. Indeed, all too many believe that the US Constitution was written to support slavery rather than the reality in which it was written for the future elimination of slavery. As an example, see the US Constitution Article I, Section 9 Item 1, which prohibits the importation of slaves after 20 years, and provides a tax as a disincentive for slaves in the meantime. The Article I Section 2 Item 3 counted slaves as three fifths of a person specifically so that the slave states would not have the political power to prevent the emancipation of the slaves, but the southern states out maneuvered the northern abolitionists by requiring a portion of new states to be slave states.

    Was the South bad for their situation, or was King George of England the bad one for imposing the situation onto the South? Should the museum be making a case for which side is good, which is bad, and which is ugly, or should it present the facts and let the museum visitor decide for himself? How can the visitor do that if the facts are changed to suit the sensibilities of various politicians?

    General Robert E. Lee may have been fighting for the losing side, which may or may not have been the bad side, but to deny that he was an excellent and important general is to deny historical facts and to disrespect his memory and his rightful place in history. The Union had a more difficult time winning the war because of Lee’s skills and talents.

    The Confederate States may have stood for slavery, but the Confederacy was an important factor in the history of slavery, the heritage that King George left the United States, and the eventual liberation of the slaves. To deny the Confederate flag is to deny this important aspect of the Emancipation Proclamation, the freeing of slaves in the US, and the modern attitudes about slavery.

    As I asked in my previous comment, above: without knowing history, how would the Henry County commissioner know to be offended by the Confederate flag?

    Another example is the question of why the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor in 1941. How many people know the answer to this question? The movie “Tora, Tora, Tora!” does a good job of presenting the Japanese point of view of the world events that led to that attack.

    A final example is the question of why Muslims flew airplanes into New York’s World Trade center 60 years later. Few people have any clue about the why of this, because too many Social (In)Justice Wombats try to convince us that it was our own fault.

  • Cotour

    The coming dark age? This is the coming dark age:

    http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/islam-track-overtake-christianity-worlds-no-1-religion/

    Make no mistake about it, paradoxically this is the result of Western civilizations success. Western philosophy promotes a more liberal and inclusive culture and the culture that they are including will in the end, if nothing is done to tamp it down, consume it.

    These two cultures should not be held as equal, they are not. They in fact are fundamentally 180 degrees opposed to each other. Western, Liberal, Democrat philosophy has a hole in it and will in time insist that we all commit cultural suicide as a matter of a politically correct course.

  • Alex

    Hi Wayne:

    Here is brilliant truth piece for you and it may open your eyes (if being closed)!

    Is White Nationalism Un-American?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8nWl3doLnI

  • Steve Earle

    Edward said:
    “….And why aren’t the feelings those who have actually been offended by the removal of the flags not a concern of the stupid politician?…”

    THAT is the ultimate question isn’t it? We are no longer a majority-rule country, we are sliding into a Tyranny of the (Loudest) Minority.

  • wayne

    Alex–
    You worry me sometimes.
    (but, I’m sure the same, has & will be said, of me.)

  • wayne

    Mark Levin:
    “Nationalism, Populism, Patriotism, Republicanism, and Americanism..”
    February 07 2017
    https://youtu.be/fnmwVNealfw
    (10:12)

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