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Moderna CEO admits to past lies: “COVID is simply the flu, harmless to the healthy.”

The liar at Moderna
The liar in charge at Moderna

On October 17, 2022 during a news conference, Stéphane Bancel, the CEO of the drug company Moderna, made the following statement about COVID, the so-called plague that allowed his company (and others) to make billions pushing their jabs on a terrified public:

“I think it’s going to be like the flu. If you’re a 25-year-old, do you need an annual booster every year if you’re healthy?

“You might want to… but I think it’s going to be similar to flu where it’s going to be people at high-risk, people above 50 years of age, people with comorbidities, people with cancer and other conditions, people with transplants.”

Gee, where I have heard these exact words for the past two-plus years? Could it have been on this very same webpage, said by me as well as numerous other cool-headed experts who — rather than panicking — looked at the actual data? From my first detailed post about COVID in March 2020, using all the early real data:

The death rate is mostly confined to the older population with already existing health issues, like the flu.

This early conclusion was later confirmed again and again in the months that followed. From September 2020, for example, in citing CDC data I wrote:

The Wuhan virus killed you only if you had an average of slightly less than three serious chronic health conditions. And generally you had to be elderly, with the average age of death 78 years old. Otherwise, just like the flu you might have been sick for a few days, but you would have recovered and been able to go on with your life as normal. This data once again demonstrates that the masks, the shut downs, and the economic disaster were all unnecessary.

I of course was hardly the loudest voice, or the only one. Many others with much greater expertise than I kept saying the same thing. All were pilloryed, doxed, blackballed, and censored for saying so. “How dare you? You are killing grampa by not panicking! You should be burned at the stake!”

Nor is Bancel the only drug company executive walking back the early claims. Watch this short video from European Parliament member Robert Roos. Pfizer executive Janine Small admits that the company never tested its jab to see if it could stop transmission. They had no idea if it could do this at all.

And yet, Pfizer teamed up with mostly Democratic Party politicians to claim for two years that the jab would protect you entirely from COVID, an utter lie. And the ugliness of this lie is made worse when you see the viciousness in which these people demanded everyone get jabbed. Consider this compilation of Joe Biden statements:

Or watch the compilation of others saying the same thing here. Not only do these people demand everyone get jabbed, they say so with an utter contempt and hate for anyone who dares disagrees with them. These bullies were so convinced that they were right, based on nothing, that they even made getting the jab mandatory, or you would lose your job.

As written by David Strom at PJMedia in reporting this story:

I have been vaccinated and boosted, but have decided to avoid getting any more of the shots. I feel burned by the medical establishment, as do a fair number of doctors I know. They are neither recommending nor discouraging patients to get vaccinated because, well, who knows? Certainly you can’t trust the public health establishment on the issue.

Only now, after Moderna and Pfizer and other drug companies have made a combined profit of $34 billion from these COVID shots, and the public is beginning to realize how utterly useless the jab is in stopping the Wuhan flu, while also carrying real health risks, have officials from these companies begun to admit to their lies. They are no different than Emily Litella.

But they cannot simply say “Never mind!” Their lies and panic ended up killing thousands who did not have to die, some because they could not get care due to the lockdowns, some because hospitals either gave them the wrong drugs or the wrong treatment, and some because they had a mortal adverse reaction to the jab itself.

Their lies caused the politicians to panic as well, imposing insane and useless lockdowns plus mask and social distancing mandates that accomplished nothing to stop the Wuhan flu but destroyed thousands of lives and businesses and careers.

And none of this includes the blacklisting that went on against anyone who raised reasonable questions about this panic.

These thugs did great harm. They should face some consequences for their immoral, irresponsible, and dishonest behavior. And if they do not, the harm to our civilization will be far more long-lasting and deep than any of the foolish specific policies and lies put forth during the Wuhan panic. It will be wounded at its very core, with no chance to heal.

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  • Robert Pratt

    Pfister should be Pfizer.

  • Robert Pratt: Thank you. Fixed.

  • pzatchok

    Pfister was correct. At least in their actions.

    And please Mr.Z stop dropping facts into the lefts fantasy world. They get all triggered and scream “Na Na NA I can not hear you!”

  • wayne

    Because I can’t recall precisely–>
    Was Moderna the company that received $7 per covid dose, or did they receive $23 per covid dose?

  • Col Beausabre

    Well, He’s banned from commenting on MSN. He’ll be reported for spreading “Misinformation Covid”. Not his original statements, oh no. His revised statements, of course.

  • Edward

    From the first video, Pfizer executive Janine Small said “we had to really move at the speed of science to understand what was taking place in the market.

    What a weird statement. Science does not help understand what is taking place in the market. At best it could have been used to measure how the faux vaccines were working in the general population, but scientific studies were not performed, so science had nothing to do with the market.

    Before it was released into the market, however, they performed some studies, but they were performed faster than the speed of science, and either these studies failed to show the adverse affects or the manufacturers refused to release that data. This data was crucial information for making informed decisions on getting the jab.

    From the second video, and from Let’s Go Brandon’s own mouth: “Fully vaccinated people are at a very, very low risk of getting COVID19.

    This is the very same Brandon who caught Wuhan flu despite being a fully vaccinated person, and his wife caught it, too. Many of the jabbed people around me have tested positive. So much for low risk.

    You may have thought that we didn’t trust government before, but we definitely don’t trust them anymore. Ten years after nationalizing heathcare (the activity, not the companies), government murdered tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) through their cluster fiasco reaction to the Wuhan flu, and it destroyed our economy and society.

    I received a card in the mail advertising the grand opening of a company, saying “If DMV Can Do It … WE CAN DO IT BETTER!

    I believer them. Government sets such a low bar for competence.

  • Scott Patton

    Is that a quote in the headline?

  • BLSinSC

    I guess this explains why so FEW in these DRUG companies have “accepted” the “vaccines”! The SUDDEN DEATHS of so many YOUNG people from heart related issues just “happen” to be closely associated with their “acceptance” of the “vaccines”! Any correlation?? If the asbestos industry can be SUED and fork over BILLION$ in decades old claims, why should BOGUS “Emergency USE” be available to shield the DRUG producers??

  • GWB

    Nailed it, Mr Zimmerman.

  • DefendUSA

    This has all been such a SS. Another friend(the 5th one, my age) of mine just died and I am certain it was not a heart attack but clot shot since he had recently had the 4th “booster”. He had side effects and refused to believe that it was the shot because he was swallowing that FauChina was smarter than the rest of us. He was protected from the unprotected, but it didn’t even protect the protected!! Swelling in his feet that took 3 weeks to go away. Fatigue, shortness of breath. Had an echocardiogram that said he was fine. But… he was not. He ended up having SOB and chest pain. Called 911. He was dead by the time they reached him. He died alone. 57. I took a lot of crap from him about masks and shots and held my ground. If I didn’t? I might have been burying my 22 yo son because he did have a heart issue before this “pandemic”. Quercetin, D3, Aspirin have served me well.
    I am so over what the lettered agencies are getting away with and still with the lying. NIAID director says she didn’t know about Boston U study on new “combined” viral research that was supposed to help with a “cure”? Stop it! 80% fatal and no one is accountable? FauChina? Anyone?
    I need an investor to front me money so I can form the Pure Blood Product Company…where natural immunity still matters. Pure Blood. I am not taking any shots ever, unless I am dying and have have nothing to lose. This has been an experiment of epic proportion and all it has done is ruin our people, our country and the trust we had in once good institutions. Trump was right. They wanted to oust him to get to us, and now Biden’s puppets are taking it all.

  • m d mill

    You specifically quote Moderna CEO saying “Covid is simply the flu, harmless to the healthy.”
    Can you show me your source of this quote. I cannot find it in the article or else where.

  • Sabrina

    This article is seriously inaccurate. Here is a forum comment that documents the errors:

  • m d mill

    Thank you Sabrina.
    I want to know if this is a true quote, or something RZ just made up.
    After a google search the only place i can find this quote is on BTB.

    The comment on the forum you mention should be repeated here:

    ” Farcourt • 2 hours ago • edited

    “COVID is simply the flu, harmless to the healthy.”

    This is a wildly dishonest article. First, Stéphane Bancel did not say the words that the author put in quotation marks and attributed to him. He was talking about the rationale for getting, or not getting, a booster. He said it’s “a bit like the flu” in the following way: If you’re 25 and healthy, and you don’t get a flu shot, you’re “highly unlikely” to die if you get the flu. Covid is “similar to” flu in that way. If you’re young, healthy and unvaccinated and you get Covid, it isn’t likely to kill you.

    But he also emphasizes that among those who get Covid, the unvaccinated are much more likely than the vaccinated to require hospitalization, and more likely to die. That is a fact confirmed by reams of statistical data from multiple countries.

    In short, there is nothing new in this interview. He doe not “admit to past lies.” This is not an Emily Litella moment. And he clearly does not say that Covid is “simply the flu,” nor does he say that it is “harmless to the healthy.”

    Watch the whole interview and see for yourself. You’re welcome to criticize Moderna as much as you please on the merits and on the facts. But goddam, people! The linked article is fake news and bullshit journalism. It is as intellectually dishonest as any hit piece the liberals in MSM ever wrote. This clip begins at the point where he was asked about the Covid vaccine and booster:

  • Sabrina

    Here is an accurate report that corrects the errors made by Zimmerman:

    ‘Moderna CEO: Not everyone will need an annual COVID booster’

    The COVID-19 booster market is starting to look more like an annual flu season than it did in the first two years of the pandemic.

    That’s according to Moderna (MRNA) CEO Stéphane Bancel, who joined Yahoo Finance’s 2022 All Markets Summit to discuss the COVID vaccine outlook.

    Bancel noted that not everyone is likely to need an annual booster. “I think it’s going to be like the flu. If you’re a 25-year-old do you need an annual booster every year if you’re healthy? You might want to … but I think it’s going to be similar to flu where it’s going to be people at high risk, people above 50 years of age, people with co-morbidities,” Bancel said.

  • Cotour


    “The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) panel of expert vaccine advisers voted Thursday to add the COVID-19 vaccine to the children’s immunization schedule.

    The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted by a count of 15-0 to add the COVID-19 shots to the immunization schedule, which is a recommended list of vaccines for pediatricians to give children at certain points throughout their development. The addition itself does not mandate that any children receive the vaccine; however, a number of states follow the CDC recommendations when developing their vaccination requirements for public schools.”

  • wayne

    Ref: Bancel.

    I have absolutely zero problems nationalizing Moderna and rendering Bancel offshore, so he can be interrogated for the rest of his life.

  • m d mill

    It is amazing that RZ calls the CEO a liar (which means he does not believe what he says, not that it may be wrong), but then misquotes him and clearly misrepresents what the CEO actually communicated.
    I don’t think RZ is himself a liar, but on this subject of the original virus lethality his comments are often delusions. At the very least he should correct the misquote in the header and withdraw the liar comment unless RZ can specifically prove the incorrect statement and the CEO’s state of belief.

  • Cotour

    I just now saw a customer / friend that I have not seen since before the beginning of Covid, and he works for the U.N.

    And of course we spoke about Covid and the goings on related to it, and he told me something I found very, very interesting.

    The U.N. had *NO* “vaccine” mandate for their employees whatsoever. You could do as you pleased.

    He chose to receive the shot plus boosters, but there was no apparent attempt by the U.N. to force anyone in that organization to have an experimental mRNA drug put in their bodies. They had CHOICE.

    I found that very, very interesting indeed.

  • Cotour

    Statistics related to excess deaths among young people 0 to 24 both in the UK and America during the 2020 to 2021 Covid / “vaccination” event:

    Dr. Campbell:

    “Cardiac arrythmia”, fully “vaccinated”?

    (Why such a broad section of age group?)

    Dr. Campbell will not speculate as to what these excess deaths are directly related to, can anyone speculate as to what the difference might be that might be causing these excess deaths among the young during the Covid / mass “vaccination” events of 2020 and 2021?

    You decide.

    Q: Why have the Chinese who have the technical capacity to duplicate the now standardized in the West the mRNA “vaccine” NOT duplicated the now standardized mRNA “vaccination” formula for their population?

    If it is so effective and safe, why have they not done so?

  • Cotour

    Original Covid Infection Fatality Rate?

    Dr. Campbell:

    10 times less than projected pre “Vaccine” in the 0 to 69 year olds.

    Projected? 0.9.

    Actual? 0.09 or less?

    Was the Zman and many others generally correct from the start?

    That is what it appears to be.

  • Cotour

    Dr. Campbell:

    U.S. Senate: “Lab most likely origin of Covid:

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