Republicans call memo about FISA abuses “shocking”


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The release to the entire House of a memo from the House Intelligence Committee outlining surveillance abuses by the FBI under the FISA law has resulted in numerous expressions of horror and alarm from many House members after reading the memo.

“It is so alarming the American people have to see this,” Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan said.

“It’s troubling. It is shocking,” North Carolina Rep. Mark Meadows said. “Part of me wishes that I didn’t read it because I don’t want to believe that those kinds of things could be happening in this country that I call home and love so much.”

Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz said he believed people could lose their jobs after the memo is released. “I believe the consequence of its release will be major changes in people currently working at the FBI and the Department of Justice,” he said, referencing DOJ officials Rod Rosenstein and Bruce Ohr. “You think about, ‘is this happening in America or is this the KGB?’ That’s how alarming it is,” Pennsylvania Rep. Scott Perry said.

All these comments came today, and all refer to abuses by the Department of Justice and the FBI and Obama administration of the FISA.

It is interesting that despite these howls of outrage and horror, the same article above also noted that the Senate today approved a renewal of that same FISA law, with essentially no changes.

On Thursday, the Senate voted 65-34 to reauthorize a FISA provision that allows U.S. spy agencies to conduct surveillance on foreign targets abroad for six years. The bill, which already has been passed by the House, now heads to the White House,where President Donald Trump has said he will sign it into law.

The law had already been approved by the House, which in case anyone might have forgotten, is controlled by the same Republicans screaming outrage above.

These elected officials might mouth platitudes about respecting the Constitution and freedom, but what they do is what counts, and what they do illustrates that they don’t believe a word of what they say.

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15 comments

  • BSJ

    Just attach some Earmarks. Then it’s all good…

  • ken anthony

    “Outrageous! Here’s your report senator.”

    This is reported to see how much farther they can push it.

    The fantasy is one day they will study this period as an example of corruption and tyranny. More likely is that never happens because it requires people that value what we’ve lost.

    I’m pretty sure we’ve solved the Fermi paradox.

  • Cotour

    Off the top of my head:

    1. Muellers involvement in “The Americans” spy scandal involved Russian spy’s planted in the U.S. and the Obama administration and the Secretary Of State (arranging the Uranium One deal FOR Russia), “soon to be” president, Hillary Clinton. Worked with Rosenstein (Deputy FBI director overseeing Mueller and the Trump Russia investigation today). This begins to lay out the corruption within the leadership of FBI usurping the Constitution. Their will probably be indictments and jail time for some.

    2. The Mueller / Comey instigated investigation is based on collusion and corruption in its FISA charge and is an attempt to undo a presidential election, a coup in other words. Dissolution of the Mueller investigation.

    3. The Hillary Clinton email server issue. The transferring of secure and top secret government information over non secure systems in order to attempt to protect Hillary from scrutiny. Indictments.

    4. The Huma Abadin / Anothony Weiner personal lap top and it containing secure and top secret information and secure pass codes. This bleeds into the Clinton Foundation and into the office of the S.O.S.. Indictments.

    5. The Clinton Foundation involvement in pay to play quid pro quo in the billions between Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton and the many, many corporations and foreign governments seeking access to the “next president of the United States”. Indictments

    6. The “hacking” of the DNC which revealed the extreme fraud and corruption in the political race between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton within the DNC. This very damaging transfer of email information appears to have resulted in the murder of a DNC I.T. worker, Seth Rich. A possible hit by MS13(?).

    7. The now infamous “Tarmac meeting” between head of the DOJ Loretta Lynch and former president Bill Clinton while Lynches office was investigating Bill Clinton’s wife Hillary Clinton related to her illegal email server and security violations. Turned the FBI investigation into a “matter” instead of an investigation. Indictments.

    8. The Las Vegas shooting which is not about a “crazed” gambler shooting up innocent Americans but credibly now appears to have been an international attempted hit on a Saudi prince involved the reshaping of the power structure in the Middle East and the world.

    This is a good general tutorial of the events of the past years that has lead up to where we are right now if you have 16 minutes. https://youtu.be/7Ar87_Q7EWU

    These are just 8 issues that I can tick off the top of my head just to give a general idea to those who do not really have the time to follow all of this in its complexity and depth. This will become the biggest and deepest conspiracy and collusion and a direct attack on our Constitution and rights in our American history. And its all about to be rolled out.

  • Garry

    Cotour, you left out the issue of Debbie Wasserman Schults’s tech support people from Pakistan, and their infiltration of the servers of dozens of House Democrats.

  • wayne

    None of this is over with, by a long shot, until barack hussein obama is rendered to Guantanamo Bay.

  • Cotour

    Garry:

    Yes, its big and complex and I was bound to forget something. And then there will be so much more.

  • Cotour

    THE CONSTITUTION CREATES A WAVE FORM AND BREAKS THE OVAL FORM MODEL AND THERE BY TENDS TO AVOID TOTAL DESTRUCTION. ITS NOT PERFECT BUT ITS BETTER THAN THE KNOWN HISTORICAL OUTCOME.

    This 4 page FISA memo that will cause firings and possibly indictments when it is released is an example of the struggle between the forces structured within the Constitution, one’s nature is to hide information and tend to be corrupt and abuse power and the other forces over time force the releasing of that “secret” internal information. This situation is a very good example of my Oval V Wave form civilization models. And apparently there is a lot more than only 4 controversial FISA pages to be had.

    At the bottom of the oval we rise and develop civilizations of varying kinds, all solving the same prime directive problem, survival and civilization. “First we eat, then civilization”. As we rise in the track of the oval we advance and become more sophisticated, at 9 o’clock humanity is doing well.

    At 10 o’clock its going very well although the further we are removed from the base 6 o’clock position, where its all about clear thinking and pure survival, self interested human nature and corruption is getting its grip in the now growing bureaucracy.

    At the eleven o’clock position we can do no wrong, but this corruption grows and abuse of power now is becoming a problem especially as government creates more and more “solutions” for the people. Now you have to know someone to get anything done.

    At 12 o’clock we are the kings of the universe, all powerful and omnipotent. Then comes the slide down the oval and the inevitable dive into chaos, failure, corruption, gross abuse of power and then finally, like all other great civilizations into oblivion and history to be studied. “What happened to them?” They did not have the American Constitution which was intended and designed to break the cycle of certain destruction.

    To not belabor my point any longer, the Constitution due to the Founders brilliance in understanding human nature and the nature of human nature as it relates to governance and power endeavored to destroy that inevitable deadly oval structure and reforms it into the continuously fluctuating wave form of hope moving into the future. And that is where our collective salvation lies, in the wave form and not the oval form. If we choose properly.

    WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO WHAT MUST BE DONE AS PROVIDED BY THE FOUNDERS THEN WE MUST NOT MISS OUR MARK AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT IN TIME.

    Timing is everything in life, and this is our time.

  • Cotour

    Jordan Petersen’s interpretation of why America is different and why it will survive but he sees the EU as being lost.

    https://youtu.be/MONZ2ewR7EY

    He does not quite dig down far enough and identify the foundation of the difference though, which of course is the Constitution and what it uniquely structures.

  • pzatchok

    I do believe that laws are just tools. They can be abused by the unscupulous just like any other tool.

    If only one person tried to abuse these rules and laws then it never would have or could have happened.
    But over a period of time less scupulous people with their own agendas were put into important places, from judges to supervisors and on down to the common officers.
    Add in any congretional oversite people and you could do anything with a law.

    And you wonder why they fought so hard to win the last election.
    And delayed so long in investigating suspected abuses.
    And obviscated any evidence gathering.

    Now that its all starting to come out why does anyone even wonder why obama, Hillary and their cohorts are essentially hiding. They are not out on public glamming for the cameras and trying to gain attention.
    They do not want to answer any questions about any of this.

    Lets see what happens in these offices about cleaning things up. How many career people are going to be fired for going along with these abuses? i don’t expect politicians to get punished. Not by anything more than fines.

  • Mitch S.

    Surprised Wayne hasn’t linked to the “I’m shocked there is gambling going on here” segment from “Casablanca”.
    I actually believe they are shocked by the abuses, but then they think “Gee I guess we can do that too” and vote to renew FISA.
    Reminds me of the Republicans who were gung-ho to pass the Patriot Acts during GWB’s presidency.
    I thought “Don’t they realize a Republican won’t always be President but this ability to abuse the people’s rights will remain?”
    Ah, I imagine they did – but the Establishment never turns down an opportunity to grab more power.

  • wayne

    The key phrase here is:
    “…they don’t believe a word of what say.”

    In the Alternate Universe–practically everyone in the entire Federal Government would be arrested, rendered off-shore, and disappeared.

    “Round Up The Usual Suspects”
    https://youtu.be/vtSmfws0_To
    (0:08)

    Cotour–
    – Highly recommend the whole lecture from which the clip you referenced is taken.
    Dr. Jordan Peterson
    Maps of Meaning (2017) part 11:
    “The Flood and the Tower”
    [https://youtu.be/T4fjSrVCDvA]
    (2:32:23)
    “In this lecture, I continue my discussion of the archaic stories at the beginning of Genesis, including Cain and Abel, and the flood story of Noah (the return of chaos), and the story of the Tower of Babel (which I am reading as a very old warning about the danger of erecting something akin to a Totalitarian/Utopian Secular State — so that is pathological order).”

  • wayne

    Jordan Peterson reads Jack Kent’s
    “There’s no such thing as a Dragon”
    https://youtu.be/-QtOWpV8d_0
    4:49

  • Cotour

    Wayne:

    Are you aware of or tracking the QAnon posts?

  • Cotour

    Joe Di Genova explains it all about how the FBI and DOJ conspired to get Hillary elected and excuse Hillary when she lost and ultimately to frame Trump and destroy his presidency. And it will include actions by former president Barack Hussein Obama.

    https://youtu.be/RuhI7zeanQg

    If you are confused about what is to come this will clarify it for you, and there are about 10 other levels of illegal activity including the Clinton Foundation and Uranium One and associated issues which on there own are massive illegal operations.

    35 minutes well spent.

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