A federal appeals court has ruled that schools can ban the American flag in order to prevent violence.
Bad news for free speech: A federal appeals court has ruled that schools can ban the American flag in order to prevent violence.
The court’s ruling: School administrators can force you to remove your American-flag tee if the alternative is a classmate punching you in the face. That’s because, per the Supreme Court, students don’t have the same free speech rights at school that adults do on other public grounds. At school, the name of the game is order and instruction; you’re entitled to free expression to the extent you don’t interfere with those goals, but once you do, the school’s entitled to limit your expression accordingly.
In other words, a bully can get the principal’s office to silence you by promising to beat your ass if they don’t.
This is, as Eugene Volokh notes, a classic “heckler’s veto” in that it rewards a violent actor by suppressing the speech that’s irritated him instead of punishing him for being violent.
So, according to this ruling, the only people who will have free speech will be those willing to threaten, and even use violence. A foolish and mindless ruling, if I ever saw one.
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Bad news for free speech: A federal appeals court has ruled that schools can ban the American flag in order to prevent violence.
The court’s ruling: School administrators can force you to remove your American-flag tee if the alternative is a classmate punching you in the face. That’s because, per the Supreme Court, students don’t have the same free speech rights at school that adults do on other public grounds. At school, the name of the game is order and instruction; you’re entitled to free expression to the extent you don’t interfere with those goals, but once you do, the school’s entitled to limit your expression accordingly.
In other words, a bully can get the principal’s office to silence you by promising to beat your ass if they don’t.
This is, as Eugene Volokh notes, a classic “heckler’s veto” in that it rewards a violent actor by suppressing the speech that’s irritated him instead of punishing him for being violent.
So, according to this ruling, the only people who will have free speech will be those willing to threaten, and even use violence. A foolish and mindless ruling, if I ever saw one.
On Christmas Eve 1968 three Americans became the first humans to visit another world. What they did to celebrate was unexpected and profound, and will be remembered throughout all human history. Genesis: the Story of Apollo 8, Robert Zimmerman's classic history of humanity's first journey to another world, tells that story, and it is now available as both an ebook and an audiobook, both with a foreword by Valerie Anders and a new introduction by Robert Zimmerman.
The ebook is available everywhere for $5.99 (before discount) at amazon, or direct from my ebook publisher, ebookit. If you buy it from ebookit you don't support the big tech companies and the author gets a bigger cut much sooner.
The audiobook is also available at all these vendors, and is also free with a 30-day trial membership to Audible.
"Not simply about one mission, [Genesis] is also the history of America's quest for the moon... Zimmerman has done a masterful job of tying disparate events together into a solid account of one of America's greatest human triumphs."--San Antonio Express-News
A great intellect on the bench, not! what exactly are the qualifications to be a judge on the supreme court, sadly common sense does not seem to apply.
Love your site but I think you are wrong when you slam the judicial ruling. It’s the policy of the school that is providing the heckler’s veto. The judges are merely saying the school has the right to an unwise policy.
This government school would ban a red white and blue flag, but I would be willing to bet they wouldn’t object to a red white and blue “O”
So let me see if I understand.
(Apart from threats, bullying, and violence now being acceptable on school grounds) anti-patriotism is acceptable on school grounds, but patriotism isn’t. Who is being unpatriotic, an American citizen or foreign student? If it is an American student, then he has been poorly taught (this also seems acceptable on school grounds). If it is a foreign student, then he is ungrateful for the free education that this great country provides him.
“If you want to make your classmate shut up, you need to credibly threaten violence. That’s how ‘free speech’ works in the nation’s schools.”
Expanded freedom for the thugs, reduced freedom for the victims. As I recall, that is how the Nazi party gained power, by physically beating up any opposition until it quit the electoral race. It was an effective method of “shut-uppery.” Learn from history, America, or we are doomed to relive it.
The “adults” in this nation seem to be truly stupid. How did we ever make this nation great?
We’ll agree to disagree on this one, RZ. Important to know the intent of those wearing the flag. My opinion was the intent was to denigrate the students of Mexican descent. If whites of Irish or Italian descent can have days to celebrate their heritage and can conduct parades on those days, why can not those of Mexican ancestry?
I despise censorship, but I despise racism even more.
Bob Clark