Long March 2F booster that launched astronauts lands on public road in China
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One of the four strap-on boosters used to launch three astronauts to China’s new space station on June 16th ended up landing on a public road in China.
The photo to the right, uploaded at this twitter feed, shows the booster. The parachute cords at its top explain why it is so relatively undamaged. The Chinese are apparently experimenting with parachutes to slow and maybe even control its descent. They might even be planning to catch the stage before it hits the ground, using a plane or helicopter, as both ULA and Rocket Lab hope to do with their Vulcan and Electron rockets.
Of course, we do not know this, as the Chinese tell us nothing.
Note that the hypergolic fuels, such as the hydrazine used in this booster, are extremely toxic. The person who took this picture is in very great danger, even if he or she does not know it.
Potential routes of hydrazine exposure include dermal, ocular, inhalation and ingestion.
Hydrazine exposure can cause skin irritation/contact dermatitis and burning, irritation to the eyes/nose/throat, nausea/vomiting, shortness of breath, pulmonary edema, headache, dizziness, central nervous system depression, lethargy, temporary blindness, seizures and coma. Exposure can also cause organ damage to the liver, kidneys and central nervous system. Hydrazine is documented as a strong skin sensitizer with potential for cross-sensitization to hydrazine derivatives following initial exposure.
Not that the Chinese government really cares. They have been dumping these boosters on their own people for decades, and only recently have apparently begun to look into ways of controlling their descent.
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One of the four strap-on boosters used to launch three astronauts to China’s new space station on June 16th ended up landing on a public road in China.
The photo to the right, uploaded at this twitter feed, shows the booster. The parachute cords at its top explain why it is so relatively undamaged. The Chinese are apparently experimenting with parachutes to slow and maybe even control its descent. They might even be planning to catch the stage before it hits the ground, using a plane or helicopter, as both ULA and Rocket Lab hope to do with their Vulcan and Electron rockets.
Of course, we do not know this, as the Chinese tell us nothing.
Note that the hypergolic fuels, such as the hydrazine used in this booster, are extremely toxic. The person who took this picture is in very great danger, even if he or she does not know it.
Potential routes of hydrazine exposure include dermal, ocular, inhalation and ingestion.
Hydrazine exposure can cause skin irritation/contact dermatitis and burning, irritation to the eyes/nose/throat, nausea/vomiting, shortness of breath, pulmonary edema, headache, dizziness, central nervous system depression, lethargy, temporary blindness, seizures and coma. Exposure can also cause organ damage to the liver, kidneys and central nervous system. Hydrazine is documented as a strong skin sensitizer with potential for cross-sensitization to hydrazine derivatives following initial exposure.
Not that the Chinese government really cares. They have been dumping these boosters on their own people for decades, and only recently have apparently begun to look into ways of controlling their descent.
On Christmas Eve 1968 three Americans became the first humans to visit another world. What they did to celebrate was unexpected and profound, and will be remembered throughout all human history. Genesis: the Story of Apollo 8, Robert Zimmerman's classic history of humanity's first journey to another world, tells that story, and it is now available as both an ebook and an audiobook, both with a foreword by Valerie Anders and a new introduction by Robert Zimmerman.
The print edition can be purchased at Amazon or from any other book seller. If you want an autographed copy the price is $60 for the hardback and $45 for the paperback, plus $8 shipping for each. Go here for purchasing details. The ebook is available everywhere for $5.99 (before discount) at amazon, or direct from my ebook publisher, ebookit. If you buy it from ebookit you don't support the big tech companies and the author gets a bigger cut much sooner.
The audiobook is also available at all these vendors, and is also free with a 30-day trial membership to Audible.
"Not simply about one mission, [Genesis] is also the history of America's quest for the moon... Zimmerman has done a masterful job of tying disparate events together into a solid account of one of America's greatest human triumphs."--San Antonio Express-News
That’s a picture of a Chinese Landing Pad for their boosters. C’mon Man., give them a break, they have not yet been able to steal that SpaceX technology. Darn that Musk and his cyber hacking defense team!
wash it down and auction it off to the world’s various museums.
it does take a certain _gall_ to operate like this. wow. no wonder they don’t do popular elections.
91 million members of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), enslave
1.444 Billion, Chinese peasants.
Only 6.3% of the population.
“Physical Removal of the CCP”
https://youtu.be/S-V6MZlyCqE
2:22
The kid in me would think it kinda cool. If it weren’t toxic, I’d put it on wheels. Here-we are sue happy. There? A dirt farmer might swell with pride to see this futurist diversion from the mundane.
I’m well aware of the consequences here, but my first reaction was LOL. Not the usual on your way to work.
not sure if this is applicable, main engines vs boosters, sometimes , always. Manley say China uses both types of fuel. Either way, your points in the post are valid. https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1405915092072366086
Early US launch vehicles like Vanguard used Red Fuming Nitric Acid (RFNA) and Unsymmetrical Dimethyl Hydrazine (UDMH) as hypergolic fuel and oxidizer in the second stage. Is hydrazine toxic? You be the judge
https://i.redd.it/i1rr24pq6b271.jpg
https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2009/04/Preparation_for_hydrazine_fuelling
and RFNA is just as bad
https://athrillaweek.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/rfna.jpg
Don’t think I’d liking working in the pit crew at the Cape back then….
To be fair, both of these apply to America, too:
it does take a certain _gall_ to operate like this.
You mean like blowing up entire islands with atomic bombs? Granted that they were isolated islands (that we surrounded with ships), but still.
A dirt farmer might swell with pride to see this futurist diversion from the mundane.
You mean like finding it in your field in the 1950s? I’d bet many American farmers, with visions of Tom Swift and his Atomic Airplane or Tom Corbett – Space Cadet, would have that reaction.
That doesn’t mean this is not irresponsible, but we do need to beware of mounting high horses.
We can mount our high horse any time we want. We are American. And free.
The point of the article though was that China does not care about it own people very much or is just too stupid to learn from out 70 year old mistakes.
Either way they are idiots and we have learned.
As for the parachute, they might be trying to bring them down slow enough to keep them from rupturing the fuel tanks.
A cheap way to keep their people safe.
It would be better to launch from the coast like we do but they are afraid someone might see their secret stuff if they used the coast,
Some speculation on China’s booster landing mitigation efforts.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/aerospace/space-flight/chinas-rocket-debris-problem
Gary: Not much there that hasn’t been covered before here on BtB.