Russia and China both condemn North Korea’s nuclear test
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It appears that these nations have suddenly realized that a North Korea with nuclear weapons and missiles capable of delivering those weapons anywhere on the globe is not merely a threat to the U.S., it also poses a threat to them. It is a shame that it took so long for this basic and obvious fact to sink in.
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Smoke and mirrors
Denis: My sentiments exactly. Let us wait for actions that back up those words.
Lets also remember the last 20 or 30 years of appeasement and submitting to black mail and the plain and overt transfer of technology to N. Korea that has delivered the world to this moment in time.
I can not imagine the N. Korean’s developing any of their current capabilities on their own, if I remember in the past they got their tech from the Chinese and the Chinese got their tech from the U.S. and anyone else they could steal it from. Except if again you remember the transfer of missile technology during the Clinton administration.
And after the N. Koreans we have the gift of the Iranians gifted to us all by past administrations and especially our last fearless leader, Barack Hussein Obama. And some people say that Obama really made no significant progress. He made progress.
If the Russians & Chinese told me the sky was blue, I’d wonder what sort of lies they were spinning.
Governments lie? No way.
Does anyone have any info on whether this was a true fusion bomb, or a tritium boosted fission design?
Cotour–
[Look up our “W-88” warhead, and “Wen Ho Lee.” Chi-coms stole our technology for miniaturizing hydrogen bombs in the early 1990’s.]
It took the United States 3 years & $2 billion (1940’s dollars) to produce both a gun-type & implosion-type weapon, and that included building “B” reactor at Hanford & the Oak Ridge separation plant.
There is no reason why North Korea couldn’t (mass) produce atomic weapons.
>North Korea bought their nuke technology from the infamous A Q Kahn network (Pakistan).
(I forget who gave the north-Koreans a nuclear-reactor.)
The only truly complicated process for building nuclear weapons, is producing the fissile material. Once you have that, it’s all just engineering.
Russia and China both know N.K. days are numbered. They are simply preparing for the aftermath where they still have an element of control.
Wayne,
Also remember that to efficiently deliver a device via a missile is crucial. Where did the Chinese get their tech? The U. S., remember Loral electronics? Their headquarters were about 5 miles from where I am sitting in NYC.
You can bet Clinton was well rewarded by the Chinese.
“Afterward Loral admits it gave the Chinese a written report about the cause of the rocket failure, without official clearance. A Pentagon office concluded in a still-secret report that “United States national security has been harmed,” according to government officials. And Loral confirms it is now under investigation by a federal grand jury as a result.”
I find it very hard to believe that if China has access in the many ways that they might have to our high technology that some of that does not get bled off. There are always consequences to elections, both good and bad.
1/10/02: “”The cloud has been lifted,” said Loral Chief Executive Bernard Schwartz. Loral, the second-biggest U.S. satellite-communications company, neither admitted nor denied the government’s charges as part of the settlement. “We are very happy that we have been able to resolve this.””
Just cost them a $14 million dollar fine.
Wayne: See this article for more details about the North Korea bomb test.
Cotour–
yowza– totally forgot about Loral. Who owns them? (I have a fuzzy recollection the Chinese bought Loral, something crazy like that….)
Mr. Z-
thank you..
If it was a boosted weapon, that alone scares me, ‘cuz it’s a complicated (and time limited) process to boost fission weapons. The clock starts running down when they are assembled & charged.
It would be interesting to know if the mock-up was an actual working design, or if they tested a huge immobile configuration, such as we did.
Either way, they have the rockets and fission warheads. They undoubtedly understand how to make them survive re-entry
Tangentially, if you look at the blueprints for a W-88 warhead, the concept is surprisingly simple.
apparently however, manufacturing the plastic gel which focuses the x-rays required to initiate fusion, is a complicated process. See:
“Fogbank: Lost Knowledge Regained”
http://www.lanl.gov/orgs/padwp/pdfs/nwj2_09.pdf
(absolutely fascinating)
4.3 “Fission-Fusion Hybrid Weapons”
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Nwfaq/Nfaq4-3.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loral_Corporation
Loral now defunct. They play down the damage but any time you have a company working at that level with what was then and now an enemy there is only one thing that can happen, transfer of high technology.
Read down Lorals specialties: Command and control, space information system, space and range systems, defense systems etc, etc.
Wayne, prior to the Loral tech transfer to the Chinese, their missiles had a large % of launch failures and would hav ebeen doing well to hit the west coast of the US somewhere.
After Loral? greatly increased reliability and accuracy. That tech transfer created a new threat to CONUS which didn’t exist previously and gave China true intercontinental reach.
Pres. Clinton was impeached for the wrong reasons.
Commodude-
Thanks for the backgrounder factoid, and I would concur on clinton. (It’s hard to keep track of all the criminality from the 1990’s.)
I recall as well, somewhere in that period, the Chinese stole and/or bought specialized machine-tools & know-how for making submarines run quieter. (propeller & outer hull precision metal-work tech.)
[tangentially, I’m convinced we have a serious problem with crony capitalists who sell us out to our enemies in stereotypical fashion, in addition to all the industrial-espionage undertaken by the Chi-coms.]
That was actually Toshiba, who sold machinery to Russia which enables their boats to be much, much quieter. Toshiba imports were banned for a while, late 80s.
The difference between the deals was that Toshiba acted completely illegally, while Loral was given concurrence from Sec. Brown’s commerce Dept.