Flow channels on Mars
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Cool image time! The picture to the right, rotated, cropped, reduced, and sharpened to post here, was taken on May 13, 2023 by the high resolution camera on Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO). It shows what the scientists call a “channel and depression”, though to my eye everything looks like flow channels, descending to the east.
The drop from the narrow northern channel to wider southern channel is about 200 feet, with the small crater on the left sitting about halfway between. To our Earthbound eyes, something clearly flowed downhill from that northern channel into the wider channel. What we don’t know now is what the material was that did the flowing?
Was it liquid water? Glaciers? The overview map below provides some context, though it doesn’t actually provide an answer.
The red dot north of Kasei Valles on the overflow map to the right marks this location. The black in Kasei Valles is an ancient lava flow thought to have followed the older channel. The blue area marks a hypothesized lake formed by an ice dam (the white line).
The channels in the picture above were formed in a region where there are many similar flow features, all descending to the east and draining into Chryse Planitia in the northern lowland plains of Mars. While the consensus theory says that these channels were likely formed by catastrophic floods of liquid water, that theory remains unproven with many caveats, the most important of which is that no scientist has yet come up with a convincing model that would have ever allowed liquid water to exist on the surface of Mars.
It is possible that ice, flowing as a glacier, could have produced these channels. This location however is puzzling, in that despite being at 37 degrees north latitude, where orbital images normally detect many glacial features, few such features are visible. The only suggestion that there is near surface ice here is that craters all appear to be rimless, suggesting impacts into soft ice-impregnated soil.
The mystery remains however. These channels could have been formed from liquid or frozen water, but we simply do not have enough data to say which.
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Click for original image.
Cool image time! The picture to the right, rotated, cropped, reduced, and sharpened to post here, was taken on May 13, 2023 by the high resolution camera on Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO). It shows what the scientists call a “channel and depression”, though to my eye everything looks like flow channels, descending to the east.
The drop from the narrow northern channel to wider southern channel is about 200 feet, with the small crater on the left sitting about halfway between. To our Earthbound eyes, something clearly flowed downhill from that northern channel into the wider channel. What we don’t know now is what the material was that did the flowing?
Was it liquid water? Glaciers? The overview map below provides some context, though it doesn’t actually provide an answer.
The red dot north of Kasei Valles on the overflow map to the right marks this location. The black in Kasei Valles is an ancient lava flow thought to have followed the older channel. The blue area marks a hypothesized lake formed by an ice dam (the white line).
The channels in the picture above were formed in a region where there are many similar flow features, all descending to the east and draining into Chryse Planitia in the northern lowland plains of Mars. While the consensus theory says that these channels were likely formed by catastrophic floods of liquid water, that theory remains unproven with many caveats, the most important of which is that no scientist has yet come up with a convincing model that would have ever allowed liquid water to exist on the surface of Mars.
It is possible that ice, flowing as a glacier, could have produced these channels. This location however is puzzling, in that despite being at 37 degrees north latitude, where orbital images normally detect many glacial features, few such features are visible. The only suggestion that there is near surface ice here is that craters all appear to be rimless, suggesting impacts into soft ice-impregnated soil.
The mystery remains however. These channels could have been formed from liquid or frozen water, but we simply do not have enough data to say which.
The support of my readers through the years has given me the freedom and ability to analyze objectively the ongoing renaissance in space, as well as the cultural changes -- for good or ill -- that are happening across America. Four years ago, just before the 2020 election I wrote that Joe Biden's mental health was suspect. Only in this year has the propaganda mainstream media decided to recognize that basic fact.
Fourteen years ago I wrote that SLS and Orion were a bad ideas, a waste of money, would be years behind schedule, and better replaced by commercial private enterprise. Even today NASA and Congress refuse to recognize this reality.
In 2020 when the world panicked over COVID I wrote that the panic was unnecessary, that the virus was apparently simply a variation of the flu, that masks were not simply pointless but if worn incorrectly were a health threat, that the lockdowns were a disaster and did nothing to stop the spread of COVID. Only in the past year have some of our so-called experts in the health field have begun to recognize these facts.
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