Illinois joins NY in demanding social media histories of gun owners
They’re coming for you next: Illinois has joined New York with a new proposed law that would demand the social media histories from anyone wishing to own a gun.
State Rep. Daniel Didech, D-Buffalo Grove, has filed HB 888 which would require those who apply for a state-issued Firearm Owners Identification Card– mandatory for legal gun owners– turn over a list of their social media accounts to authorities under threat of a Class 2 felony. The State Police would use the information to determine if the accounts have any “information that would disqualify the person from obtaining or require revocation” of a FOID card.
Democratic legislators in New York had proposed a similar proposed law last year.
The right to bear arms is guaranteed in the Constitution. These proposed laws are designed to circumvent this, by allowing the government to do fishing expeditions looking for any reason it can to deny a citizen this right.
Freedom of speech is also guaranteed in the Constitution. These proposed laws are designed to circumvent this also, by allowing the government to delve through your speech looking for any reason it can find to hurt you because of it.
Either way, what we have here is a 1984-like government intrusion into the privacy of citizens, with no restrictions. And it increasingly appears to be future Americans face, mostly due to their own choices at the ballot box.
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They’re coming for you next: Illinois has joined New York with a new proposed law that would demand the social media histories from anyone wishing to own a gun.
State Rep. Daniel Didech, D-Buffalo Grove, has filed HB 888 which would require those who apply for a state-issued Firearm Owners Identification Card– mandatory for legal gun owners– turn over a list of their social media accounts to authorities under threat of a Class 2 felony. The State Police would use the information to determine if the accounts have any “information that would disqualify the person from obtaining or require revocation” of a FOID card.
Democratic legislators in New York had proposed a similar proposed law last year.
The right to bear arms is guaranteed in the Constitution. These proposed laws are designed to circumvent this, by allowing the government to do fishing expeditions looking for any reason it can to deny a citizen this right.
Freedom of speech is also guaranteed in the Constitution. These proposed laws are designed to circumvent this also, by allowing the government to delve through your speech looking for any reason it can find to hurt you because of it.
Either way, what we have here is a 1984-like government intrusion into the privacy of citizens, with no restrictions. And it increasingly appears to be future Americans face, mostly due to their own choices at the ballot box.
On Christmas Eve 1968 three Americans became the first humans to visit another world. What they did to celebrate was unexpected and profound, and will be remembered throughout all human history. Genesis: the Story of Apollo 8, Robert Zimmerman's classic history of humanity's first journey to another world, tells that story, and it is now available as both an ebook and an audiobook, both with a foreword by Valerie Anders and a new introduction by Robert Zimmerman.
The print edition can be purchased at Amazon or from any other book seller. If you want an autographed copy the price is $60 for the hardback and $45 for the paperback, plus $8 shipping for each. Go here for purchasing details. The ebook is available everywhere for $5.99 (before discount) at amazon, or direct from my ebook publisher, ebookit. If you buy it from ebookit you don't support the big tech companies and the author gets a bigger cut much sooner.
The audiobook is also available at all these vendors, and is also free with a 30-day trial membership to Audible.
"Not simply about one mission, [Genesis] is also the history of America's quest for the moon... Zimmerman has done a masterful job of tying disparate events together into a solid account of one of America's greatest human triumphs."--San Antonio Express-News
Charlton Heston;
“From My Cold Dead Hands”
2000
https://youtu.be/5ju4Gla2odw
(2:45)
Amendment 4
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.
Its the same as asking what books I have in my house. Sorry, but why do they want to see my books? To approve of my reading lists?
Damn lefties think owning a gun is a privilege and not a right. You can easily deny someone a privilege but not a right.
What if one has no “social media histories”?
Automatic jail time?
pzatchok
Ref the 4th Amendment, I am sure that there will be a portion of the firearms application that has you agreeing to provide the state your accounts as a condition of application. Don’t agree? Then your application goes into File 13.
Now I think – don’t know for sure – the courts have upheld in at least certain cases that you can not sign a right away, but if you can, there’s the gotcha.
pzatchok wrote: “Its the same as asking what books I have in my house. Sorry, but why do they want to see my books? To approve of my reading lists?”
Worse than that, it is the same as demanding to read your diary. It isn’t a matter of what topics you are interested in but to make sure that you think the “right” things and none of the “wrong” things. No wrongthink for us. What do they think is right and what is wrong? Only they know for sure.
The best part (for them) is that right and wrong can change at any moment in order to make everyone ineligible for gun ownership because following the right things to think in the past can turn all of us in the present into wrong-thinkers.
Next up: Crimestop.
( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime )
Robert,
You wrote: “it increasingly appears to be future Americans face, mostly due to their own choices at the ballot box.”
But of course we have chosen these intrusions of our freedoms. They have always worked in the past, right?
Gun-free zones have never had any gun attacks, right?
With a perfect track record like that, a “1984-like government intrusion into the privacy of citizens” will do what failed with the gun-free zones, right? Right?
Not only can we now get trapped by a process crime, like General Mike Flynn, but now we can get trapped by a thoughtcrime. Apparently, we will put up with anything, just so long as it makes us think that we are safe, even a security camera in our shower. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea-XNUQ0MY8 (1 minute)
“Open carry” requires nothing and might also bring the word “Sir” back into the vernacular.
Even a firearm permit is a back door way to require your firearms be registered.
Its also like a vehicle license. But owning a firearm is NOT a privilege, its a right. So requiring a license for it is wrong.
The sad thing is that liberals think a list of firearm owners is going to help them fight crime.
That is like thinking a list of vehicle owners is going to stop vehicle citations and accidents.
I would rather have an accurate list of people who can not own firearms. That way the government can reference it when a firearm is transferred in order to stop the transfer. A better background check.