Outsiders win primaries in Kansas and Missouri

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The revolt continues: Outsiders in both Kansas and Missouri today won Republican primaries.

In a four-way Missouri governor primary, the two professional politicians finished third and fourth. In a Kansas primary for Congress, the incumbent was defeated by the challenger.


  • wayne

    Huelskamp (91% Liberty Score) going down is not a good thing.
    His opponent might be an “outsider” but he’s a RINO, backed by the Chamber of Crony Capitalism & the Ethanol Lobby, to name just 2.

  • Willi

    Huelskamp was beaten by someone backed by Republican insiders as retribution for Huelskamp’s efforts to unseat Boehner. A great loss for the Conservative Caucus in Congress…

  • Localfluff

    Libertarian Party is getting like 9% in some polls, not because libertarianism has become popular, but because they are “other” or “neither”. So a high libertarian score doesn’t help anyone. Even Gary Johnson is backing off from libertarianism on the issues. Wise from the null result of Ron Paul last time.

    Has GOP now put popularity and campaign financing against each other? One has to shake hands with Trump on a rally stage to get new votes. But then one won’t get any funding from the established donors. Trump doesn’t pay for anyone else’s campaign, he says. I think Trump doesn’t care. He’ll get majority support in Congress across both parties and probably finds it easier to deal with someone corrupt than with someone with “an ideology”.

  • wayne

    slight correction on you— I referenced Huelskamp’s “Liberty Score.” it’s different than “libertarian,” but they share similarities.
    Look up (most) anyone you like at—

    You are however, onto something, in your unique way!
    –Trump and his campaign financing aren’t as clear as he would like to present. He spent a bit of his own money upfront, that is true. Or more precisely– he loaned his Primary campaign money up front.
    What is not so clear, as of yet, is how much the RNC directly reimbursed him for the Primary.
    And in the United States, when the GOP Convention ends, the Nominee (the Party) then qualifies for Federal Election funding, from the taxpayers, for the general election.

    The RNC (and DNC) nominee receive huge chunks of campaign money (tax money) from the Feds, and that money is controlled and handed out by the respective Party’s. Trump now has say & influence as to how that money gets distributed going forward.
    (I have no doubt, when all is said and done, Trump will have spent very little actual out-of-pocket money from his own bank-account.)

    Huelskamp– for example.
    Rinse Priebus, Mitch/Ryan–they hate his guts, and he was not given any (or a token amount) funding to run his Primary, from the RNC.
    The local Chamber of Crony-Capitalism & other big-money interests, poured money into his opponent’s campaign.

    We have a two-party System for all intents and purposes in the USA, and huge portions of that set-up are enshrined in our laws. (The respective Party’s are all private entities’ but a huge portion of the population believes the 2-party system is somehow an actual part of our government.)

    As well, If the Libertarian Party candidate can achieve certain vote tally’s, that Party would also receive some Federal funding, but the game is rigged to prevent that from happening in large measure.

  • Cotour

    I read this the other day but can not find the article, Lyndsey Graham spent over $1000.00 per vote in the primary, Trump, about $5.50.

    I believe Jeb spent a bout $5000.00 per vote.

    This really says a lot about the mood of the electorate.

  • wayne

    Cotour– yes, “per vote expense,” does say ‘something,’ fully granted… but that’s not the whole story & it’s somewhat of a spurious metric. (at the risk of being a nerd obsessed with the “details.”)

    Trump & the GOP now receive matching Federal (tax) cash and the RNC has largely but not entirely, reimbursed him for his Primary spending.
    I’m not being critical of Trump for doing this and it’s by no means “illegal,” or unheard of,– but to put forth to his supporters he’s “self-funding,” IS just plain old disingenuous, and for that I will criticize him.

    (I just this morning received the begging-letter from the “joint RNC/Trump” fundraising committee.)

  • wayne

    Willi — good point none of us should forget.

  • Cotour

    Sometimes the minutia and details are appropriate and very much needed and being a nerd is of the highest order in this regard. I salute you, it really is how things get to the moon and back. But that known equation alone is not how the world / universe actually operates, chaos rules and there comes order from chaos, Trump is chaos and IMO we need a little bit of chaos. (Obama says that “Trump is not qualified”, and he was? What obnoxious and self important nerve. The difference? He says it so nicely)

    AS for Trump receiving his money back from the RNC with matching funds (if I understand it correctly) I have no problem with that, I will assume that if he had not become the candidate he would be out his laid out funds?

    Trump and the RNC are now joined at the hip and what will emerge out the other end is anyone’s to guess. But IMO it is long over due.

  • wayne

    I don’t really want to start a Trump thread, but will just add a few minor points and call it quits—

    (it’s nice you like nerds in charge of going to the moon, but it’s not a “binary thing,”– I would put forth “behavior” and “physics,” are intricately intertwined. I am an outlier in this respect, but the Psych/Counseling department at the College I went to, was in the science-building and not the “social-science” building. We laughed at the Social Workers, –no offense to actual Social Workers, –“some of my best friends are social-workers.”)

    You need somebody well versed in campaign-finance, preferably a CPA, to explain how the money actually flows & under which parts of the tax-code & election finance laws.

    Some but not all of his Primary expenses, were directly reimbursed by the RNC. (during the primary)
    He loaned his Primary campaign large amounts of money, and the campaign then owes it back to him, with interest. If the primary-campaign doesn’t pay back those loans, they are transformed into bad-loans and deductible against his income at tax time.

    He already depreciates his helicopter(s) and jet(s) & has to allocate certain costs between and among his business, the primary-campaign, and the general campaign. (There’s an entire fully-staffed department at the RNC, charged with keeping track of all this, same at the DNC.)

    To be kind– he’s disingenuous with his “I spend my own money,” talk, to be cruel– “he’s blatantly lying about it.”

    If and when Trump does ‘good stuff,’ on the campaign. I’ll fully acknowledge it, even though I do not actively support him. (It’s back seat driving on my part, I acknowledge that fully.)

    (It’s a given Hillary behaves as a criminal, I think huge numbers of us strongly suspect it & now we have to be subjected to a 90 day drip-drip about it all, as it’s shown to be incontrovertible fact. Huge portions of the electorate however, just don’t care, they voted for Obama twice after all. And the Rino establishment is totally responsible for not holding her accountable. They had show-hearing’s and grandstanded, but Mitch/Ryan absolutely refused to use the power of the Congress to actually investigate her. We’ll hear about all this in 2 years, no matter if she gets elected or not, but she’ll never spend one second in prison.)

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