The lie that was COVID
This humor story at the Babylon Bee on February 8th is sadly 100% accurate and illustrates the utter lie that is at the foundation of everything we have been told about COVID-19:
Nation Prepares To Celebrate 1st Anniversary Of Two Weeks To Flatten The Curve
“This time of year we like to come together to remember the historic day one year ago when we put on masks and locked ourselves down, trusting that the lockdown would be over in just two weeks,” said local man Paul Christof as he stared out his window longingly, his three masks securely in place. “This year, I’m going all out with a Zoom party with no more than five of my closest friends — I mean, closest, figuratively speaking, of course. We’ll be literally far apart, because I want to stay home and stay safe, and I don’t want grandma to die.”
From day one, nothing we have been told by government health officials has been reliable or trustworthy. First we were only to lock-down for two weeks in order to slow the spread of the virus slightly so that hospitals would not be overwhelmed. We were also told that we shouldn’t wear masks, because a century of research clearly showed them useless and possibly counter-productive if used improperly, and proper use was unlikely if used all the time.
Then we were told we needed to lockdown for months, because we wanted to stop the spread, a goal that was utterly impossible to meet. At that same time, suddenly health officials decided that the previous half century of research about masks was all wrong, and that we must wear them all the time.
These new rules were only going to be necessary until a vaccine was available.
Now, a year later, a vaccine is suddenly not enough to allow us to be free humans again. We must wear masks, with two masks being even better, and normal activities such as attending parties, sports events, shows, and concerts must still be forbidden.
Along the way, a lot of evidence raised legitimate questions about the way coronavirus deaths and cases were tracked, with much of it suggesting the numbers were being manipulated for political purposes.
The result today is that a very very large percentage of the population no longer trusts anything said by these health officials. And for good reason. They have lied, repeatedly, and liars should never be trusted, ever.
Not that it makes much different. These liars are firmly ensconced in power, and can say and do anything, including fines and punishments for not obeying their commands.
America is no longer a nation dedicated to “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” It is now a place of lies, edicts, petty dictators, blacklists, and increasing oppression. All largely prompted by an irrational over-reaction to a virus that is really nothing more than a variation of the flu.
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Part of me recoils when I hear someone talking about my country being “a place of lies, edicts, petty dictators, blacklists, and increasing oppression”, but when I look at the reports coming in from what’s left of the free media, I can’t argue. The changes we’ve seen in this country, just since the start of the lockdowns, are unprecedented in my lifetime. Woodrow Wilson must be smiling.
Skunk Bucket: The reason we are now where we are is because for the last two decades Americans simply refused to recognize the fascist element creeping into power in government. As I wrote in 2018:
We allowed them to gain power, and now they have it. It is going to be next to impossible to wrest it from them.
Man in the High Castle
“I Pledge Allegiance…”
https://youtu.be/bVlKXAHOkuM
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WANT TO IMPROVE YOUR COVID SURIVIABILITY?
Another update on taking Vitamin D and Covid 19:
Make sure you are taking Vitamin D every day, it apparently improves your chances of NOT being infected with Covid 19 by 34%.
Dr. Campbell takes 3000 IU Vitamin D every day. (Check with your doctor.)
Dr. John Campbell, Feb 4th, 2021. 26 min: https://youtu.be/au6FKi8aAsA
Taking Vitamin D every day / habitually improves your chances of NOT being intubated should you be infected by more than 6 times.
And taking Vitamin D every day lessens your likelihood of NOT dying should you become infected by almost 15 times as per these studies depending on which category you fall into. And there are other studies that indicate that taking zinc is also beneficial.
The big question is: Why is the government NOT studying these beneficial supplements and distributing them? And why is the government or the media NOT reporting these results that are clearly substantial and significant? Two I think very good questions.
Why is that? Its cheap, its plentiful, its inexpensive and its effective. Win, Win, Win, Win. Government is not the answer, the individual informing themselves is the answer.
There are no conspiracies and there are no coincidences.
This, though I would change “next to impossible” to “imminently possible, but essentially unthinkable” given what methods are necessary for their removal. EG, it’s not all that hard to remove termites provided you’re willing to burn your house down. The longer this proceeds the more extreme the measures required will become and therefore the more unthinkable to an average, well-mannered person.
It’s black-pilled, but maybe necessary for us to reflect that, in just recent history – the Bolsheviks won and were in complete power for 70+ years, the Nazi’s lost but still took millions of lives and altered Europe’s trajectory mostly for the worse, and the CCP won and continues to win despite (or because of?) killing 70+ million people. What are Westerners – steeped in the illusion at least of liberty and plenty their whole lives – prepared to do to prevent a nearly inevitable turn to brutal, murderous authoritarianism? From all indications: nothing. Cheers.
LIES, LIES, LIES AND MORE LIES
This is todays Dr. John Campbell’s Covid 19 report. I find Dr. Campbell to be right down the middle, very objective, he is fair and he deals with the verified information, in other words what reasonable human being would call, the truth. And he knows his subject.
https://youtu.be/hc9apjRpbgg
Its worth watching this video starting at the 20 min mark to the end. The first part of the video deals with the vaccine effectiveness primarily in Brittan and Wales. The second part though deals with the WHO and its recent “Objective” report regarding the virus and the Wu Han lab and the Chinese, and Dr. Campbells sarcasm is priceless.
Lies, lies and more lies, the specialty of government, any government and those paid to cover for their actions. Opinion bought and paid for.
Re: Vitamin D
I generally discount anything coming from China, but the benefits of vitamin D were reported early on. Now, we’ve come to find that the Gavin Newsom/Joe Biden hideout hasn’t work so well, and you have to wonder if this is because people lack vitamin D.
From the real world:
Just spoke with a customer who is a Dr. in one of the major NYC hospitals. I ask her every time I see her: “What’s going on?”.
And she gives me a general report about what is up with Covid in her hospital. Today she told me that they were busy, and that people “seemed sicker”.
Then I asked her about what she knows about the efficacy of Vitamin D and zinc in mitigating the effects of Covid? Blank stare, and she says, “I heard that Vitamin D was good”. And then I go over the numbers as per Dr. Campbell and his interpretation of the reports that he went through and the benefits of habitually taking Vitamin D and its efficacy in mitigating the effects of Covid.
34% less likely to contract Covid, 6 times less likely to be intubated, almost 15 times less likely to die……..if you were habitually taking Vitamin D. Seems like a no brainer to me, but there is radio silence on the issue. And she is was a bit amazed.
Then I asked her: Why are we not hearing any of this from the government or in the media? She is interested and will look into it.
I will speak with her again and see what she comes up with. And thats what is going on in the real world, Vitamin D and zinc, not really on the radar of the medical professionals that deal directly with Covid.
Even the fact checkers can’t disprove that the death rate actually went down during 2020.
(The opposite of the meaning of the word “pandemic”)
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-death-count-stable/partly-false-claim-overall-u-s-death-count-remains-stable-versus-previous-years-hinting-covid-19-not-as-deadly-as-feared-idUSKBN22Q2MT
Ruled “partly false” because;
“Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes.”
And
Fauci said to Bernie Sanders, on May 12, 2020;
“that there may have been people who died at home who did have COVID who are not counted as COVID because they never really got to the hospital…”
In other words, “you can’t believe you’re lying eyes!”
No one says it better than Tucker Carlson last night. (Questioning The wisdom of the new oligarchs will not be tolerated)
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-big-tech-silences-questions-about-covid-vaccine
More verification of the push for power to overturn national governments in favor of the new technocracy. “Failure to act” is holding the leaders of nations responsible for “social murder”. (Except China)
“Make no mistake: “The experts” intend to use the fear of future pandemics as an excuse to increase their own naked power, under the aegis of global governance removed from democratic influence.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/should-leaders-who-didnt-obey-covid-experts-go-to-prison/
Some vaccine reactions and deaths, that Tucker was talking about.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/deaths-injuries-following-covid-vaccine-cdc/
Since the imposter vaccination shots have rolled out, testing centers locally have disappeared. Even at my place of employment, the security guard who holds the temperature gun to my head daily for a year, has disappeared.(False vaccination because it is actually genetic manipulation, genetic / gene therapy… Labeled vaccination to be covered by the law “not to be legally responsible” for the deaths that occur due to experimentation that is underway on live subjects with a brand new, unproven, untested, Gene therapy. Splicing and combining genetic material in random ways for unknown outcomes) It not only affects the person injected, it also alters the bacteria within the body, and can cross species.
https://www.bioexplorer.net/genetic-engineering-pros-and-cons.html/
And;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering
And;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRISPR
No claim to prevent coronavirus.
Permanent change to the human genome. Unknown alterations to children forever… if you can still have children.
Since the vaccination roll out, death by Covid has dropped considerably while death from “coincidence” has gone up.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/death-by-coincidence/
And while, the PCR test which has shown to be unreliable above an enhancement of 30, has now been asked by WHO to be reduced from 40. Result? Infection rates have gone down dramatically. The magic of number manipulation.
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/01/21/right-on-cue-for-biden-who-admits-high-cycle-pcr-tests-produce-massive-covid-false-positives/
But the reporting Covid deaths is still encouraged because the hospitals get paid for every patient. Even FEMA is getting on the gravy train this morning.
https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20210209328/lost-a-loved-one-to-coronavirus-you-may-be-eligible-for-funeral-expense-reimbursement
I am sure you have heard that the amount of people who died in New York nursing homes was under reported by half. This $7000 comes with strings attached that you cannot sue New York or the governor. AOC is taking credit for bringing home “government” money for her district. I’m sure dozens of dead relatives are suddenly showing up for their cash. The same ones who voted in the last election.
Speaking of which, those who have not seen Mike “my pillow” guy exposing the “election fraud”two hour video. (which was incomplete, scratching the surface, but the most relevant proof) it’s been saved here.
https://ugetube.com/watch/absolute-proof-mirror-courtesy-of-mike-lindell-information-in-the-description_iCcN6r4p8CrDTZl.html
Three different links I Saved to his show were taken down, even the one posted on this site before.
Although the response of the US gov to this virus has been egregious and unnecessarily devastating, let us keep a few things in mind.
1)”Let us begin with the premise that wearing a mask properly, in the proper situations, will without doubt reduce the chances of someone transmitting COVID-19 from themselves to others. (This premise remains uncertain, but for the sake of this essay I will READILY accept it.)”–RZ
In fact in an article recently quoted by RZ what does the first line of the actual paper state?
“Infectious respiratory diseases spread when a healthy person comes in contact with virus-laden droplets from someone who has been infected, often through a sneeze or cough.1,2 Wearing a mask has been proven to be an effective method of protection in this pandemic, which both reduces the exhalation of virus-laden aerosols from a COVID patient and minimizes the inhalation of airborne virus-laden aerosols by the subjects surrounding the patient.”
Specifically, in that first referenced paper (of this paper) we read:
“A large reduction in volume is also seen with a surgical mask (Table I). A N95 mask, therefore, not only cuts the number of droplets ejected out by the person but also substantially reduces the amount of infected air produced by the person. Based on typical data,13 the volume of the cloud without a mask is about 7 times and 23 times larger than that with a surgical mask and an N95 mask, respectively.”
[ https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0029186 ]
This same paper shows that most cough spittle droplets are in the range 4 to 16 microns (which multi-layer cotton can filter), but the largest volume of spittle and viruses is actually in the less dense but much larger droplets.
But the authors of this paper admit: “It is natural to think that wearing a mask, no matter new or old, should always be better than nothing,” said author Jinxiang Xi. “Our results show that this belief is only TRUE for particles larger than 5 micrometers, but not for fine particles smaller than 2.5 micrometers.” But most viruses ARE in particles greater than 5 micron. Therefore a low leakage multilayer cloth mask is not a “useless talisman”
Similarly, the disease control experts in South Korea, who have managed to avoid a large death rate using NO lock-downs, have called masking an essential part of their covid-19 response…not useless, and they seem to know what they are talking about.
HOWEVER,
this is completely separate from the question “if and when” masking should be required by government or private businesses.
If very few people are infectious and very few infected people are in any significant danger, then masks may well be unnecessary or not worth the trouble to the general public, regardless of how effective masks may be in principle in reducing exhaled particles from infectious persons [In practice mask mandates don’t SEEM to have made much difference on death rates for the reasons given above AND because people do not, and can not wear them most of the time–which is when the infection transmission actually occurs]. Also, as a society we may view viruses as a natural inevitable risk and require isolation/avoidance to be the responsibility of the individual (which tends to be my position). These are separate valid and essential questions.
2) Covid-19 will kill roughly 14 times the number (of the usual susceptible groups) than that of a recent normal or average flu season (of the same susceptible groups). From Andrew_W–“Over the last decade flu deaths/season in the US average 35,900…”
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html”
500,00/36,000=14 …ROUGHLY.
As to attribution, the increasing difference of total deaths/month from the recent normal started sharply in about march at the time of the great china-covid infection increase and has increased to about 500,000 above the norm roughly. What else was the cause? Are the elderly dying at an increased 500,000 per year rate since march by coincidence?
It does not matter that many of these people had other diseases or were elderly and weak BECAUSE this is the same group that dies of “normal” flu.
Whether this is a flu virus or not, it is 14 times as lethal as the “normal” flu.
“Whether this is a flu virus or not, it is 14 times as lethal as the “normal” flu.”
Are you sure of this? Do we test every sick person for the flu virus? Do we test every dying patient for the flu virus? Is someone dies of a heart attack and had a positive test for the flu virus, do we list the cause of death as the flu virus? Oh, sorry..I forgot, we don’t test heart attack patients for the flu virus. Why do that? They were old and died from heart failure.
Everything you wrote was spot on until you stated this was basically a bad flu. I am a registered nurse and it is not just a bad flu. For some symptoms are mild, and then a couple months later a very small number of those mold cases start having increased shortness of breath, they go to the ER and find very low oxygen levels, then go from nasal cannula 02, to 100% 02 on a nonrebreather, and then on high flow 02. I know, I have been taking care of them. A 59 year old coworker, a nurse of 35 years died from covid. My department manager, who got it in October, is still out and oxygen dependent.
People who say and believe what you say and believe as well have no actual experience with people who got very sick from this virus, or you wouldn’t say it’s just a bad flu. You lack perspective so it is abstract. For me, it’s not abstract, and when you watch someone struggling to breath with maxed out high flow oxygen, it’s infuriating to know millions believe it’s just a bad flu.
That does mor mean I condone the reaction to it, or the incredibly horrible public health response, because I don’t. Routine infectious disease protocols, which include masking, been doing it for flu for the near 30 years I been at my nursing gig, was all that was needed. The rest, including saying we didn’t need masks was politics. Nurses and physicians were fired early on for trying to wear masks since we didn’t know who were treating that might be positive. And vitamin D, zinc and C is a routine cocktail in nursing homes where I live.
You have influence, use it wisely
It is not a vaccine. Please stop referring to this injection as such.
Peer reviewed study finds that the CDC inflated Covid numbers by 1600%
A secondary quote:
“On its website, the CDC says, just 6% of the people counted as COVID-19 deaths died of COVID-19 alone.”
https://www.wnd.com/2021/02/study-finds-cdc-inflated-covid-numbers-1600/
“Everything you wrote was spot on until you stated this was basically a bad flu.”
In terms of actual death toll, yes, it’s in the realm of “a bad flu”. Yes, we do know it has differing symptoms in a minority of cases. That’s not the point.
Good comments here.
I hope all of you have looked into the vitamins, minerals, and herbals that can cut your risks significantly with this virus. For Cotour and nurse Mere Citizen, I’d suggest taking a look at the I-MASK+ protocol of the FLCCC, and at least adding cuercetin to your cocktail. Zinc needs an ionophore, D needs magnesium, you need to consider your zinc to copper ratios.
I think we all need to push for out-patient early treatment, and for widespread prophylaxis. Both HCQ and Ivermectin seem to work very well in those roles, being used all around the 2nd and 3rd world with great effect. Yet they are still ignored, dissed, even made illegal here in the US as we sheep pin our hope to these “vaccines” which are actually only treatments, and hardly tested ones at that. This denial is also part of the scam, and it’s totally unethical.
Also ignored is the use of massive doses of IV vitamin C. I’m talking about 50-150gm per day. Read up on Dr. Cathcart. This has been known as a very potent anti-viral treatment since it was used to cure polio back in the 1940s. 80 years of use curing pneumonia etc. But not even the FLCCC’s I-MATH+ protocol, which does include some level of IV C, comes anywhere near the levels where it becomes strongly effective.
Drew458 wrote: “I think we all need to push for out-patient early treatment, and for widespread prophylaxis.”
Yeah, let’s have either Biden or the state governors issue edicts requiring everyone to do this. You must be treated as they, and Drew458, demand, because they, and Drew458, know best!
I know you probably have no intention of forcing these policies on everyone, but the way you wrote it implies exactly that, and in today’s control freak culture it is only a tiny step from suggestion to edict. Be aware of what you write.
I repeat:
Covid-19 will kill roughly 14 times the number (of the usual susceptible groups) than that of a recent normal or average flu season (of the same susceptible groups). From Andrew_W–“Over the last decade flu deaths/season in the US average 35,900…”
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html”
500,00/36,000=14 …ROUGHLY.
As to attribution, the increasing difference of total deaths/month from the recent(last decade) normal started sharply in about march at the time of the great china-covid infection increase and has increased to about 500,000 above the norm roughly. What else was the cause? Are the elderly dying at an increased 500,000 per year rate since march by coincidence?
It does not matter that many of these people had other diseases or were elderly and weak BECAUSE this is the same group that dies of “normal” flu.
Whether this is a flu virus or not, it is 14 times as lethal as the “normal” flu.
I just posted a paragraph on another thread saying essentially the same thing. But, I looked at it more generically, Government always gins up a crisis to get more power. I started with the charade that is global warming. No on one has ever shown CO2 is actually the cause of the ill defined global warming. They assume a greenhouse effect without ever noting green houses do not work without a physical barrier. They base all their projections on unproven computer models that can never be tested.
On Covid, they claim multiple contradictory theories and recommendations that depend on the day rather than any science or experience. Lock dons do not work. Mask do not work, but they serve to scare us and we listen as if these people had any authority. Who ever gave the bureaucrats the right to establish and impose fines, If we had an actual Supreme Court instead of Roberts, the Constitution would prevail and all this garbage would stop. But Roberts is a coward and needs to resign.
Rick Caird wrote, “They base all their projections on unproven computer models that can never be tested.”
Ah, but those models have been tested, for the past twenty years, and none have been successful at predicting anything. If the climate science community was really following the scientific method, they’d stop paying attention to them and go back to doing real observational science, followed by real theoretical work based not on computer models but on the actual data the observations provide.
Robert wrote: “We must wear masks, with two masks being even better, and normal activities such as attending parties, sports events, shows, and concerts must still be forbidden.”
If two masks, two face diapers, are better than one then it must take more than one face diaper for protection, meaning that the first face diaper isn’t very good at protecting anyone. But then again, Robert’s point is that the experts have been lying to us all along.
If we still cannot perform normal activities, such as attending parties, sports events, shows, and concerts, then the second face diaper isn’t protective, either.
I’m sure that the experts think that they are fooling us, but we are pretty smart, out here in the real world. The experts are myopic, thinking and studying only one aspect of health, while ignoring all the other problems that we have in normal life as well as the problems induced by their solution to this minor, “novel,” Wuhan flu. These problems are worse than the flu they tell us that they are solving. Indeed, the Wuhan flu is worse in the states that have applied these solutions than in the free states that continue to allow their populations to live free. If the Wuhan flu were so terribly contagious, then these free states would be in terrible shape instead of good shape.
But then, what do the experts care about us? They still have their jobs and most of their own normal activities, they still do as they please and disobey their own orders whenever they think no one is watching, and they get to tell others what to do, think, and feel. They know that their solutions are all lies, otherwise they would also obey their own edicts. Where there’s a double standard, there’s a hidden agenda — ulterior motives. But if we don’t obey and keep our businesses open, then the experts send the police to intimidate or to shut down our businesses. Governor Newsom’s own winery was allowed to remain open when all others in California were ordered closed. When our laws do not apply to those who make them, we are not being governed, we are being ruled.
It is all about being elite versus being controlled, being a royal or being a peon. In a world where the peons live better than the kings of old, those who want to be royalty need something more than the peons have. In a country in which the Constitution is based upon the people having natural, inalienable rights and the government is limited in its rights yet must protect the people’s rights, what do those who want to be royalty have that they can lord over the peons? Thus, the royalty must eliminate or ignore the Constitution.
From the two-masks-are-better-than-one article: “‘If you have a physical covering with one layer, you put another layer on, it just makes common sense that it likely would be more effective,’ Fauci said on the ‘Today’ show.”
Such common sense must also be true of medicines. If one sleeping pill is good, then two must be better. And if two are better, then dozens must be better still. They aren’t, of course, because too many sleeping pills kill you — common sense is not using too much medication. By design, face diaper block airflow, making them asthma simulation devices. The more effective the face diaper, the less effective it is. As it blocks more airflow, the airflow must either go around the face diaper or it prevents its victim — er — user from breathing. If we no longer have the right to life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness, then what right do we think we have to breathe?
Robert linked to an essay that includes how to use face diapers properly and actions to avoid while using face diapers. Unfortunately, the general public does not handle face diapers the same way that doctors, dentists, and other health professionals use their own masks. The general public touches masks constantly, contaminating them with everything that we are supposed to wash from our hands, and we breathe all that contamination for hours. Hence, they are face diapers. We reuse our face diapers, so they become even more contaminated over time. How we survive is a mystery.
Common sense is to not put diapers on your face, especially used ones. Much less multiple diapers.
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Rights that are too good for the peons but are just right for the royals. Liberty is too good for the peons, the peons’s lives no longer belong to themselves but to the royals, and we cannot pursue happiness while in lockdown, shutdown, smackdown, Great Oppression.
Welcome to Obama’s fundamentally transformed communist America, land of the formerly free.
Mere Citizen,
What you described sounds bad, and it is a flu. It seems as though this bad flu merely has a new (or should I say “novel”) method of killing its host.
As for your coworker, the way flu deaths are now reported, we cannot be sure that she died of Wuhan, with Wuhan, or suspected or assumed to be Wuhan. This is one of the many problems with corrupting the data and the data collection system. Robert noted one of the effects: we no longer trust those with authority.
Ironically, you may be too close to the problem to have perspective. You see some of your patients suffer more than for other flus, but the overall death rate is far less than for serious flu outbreaks, even the rate reported from the corrupted data. Even that rate does not warrant the reaction that we all are suffering from.
The reason that nurses and physicians were fired early on for using masks is that masks do not work for respiratory diseases. According to studies, they barely work for their actual purpose: reducing post surgical infections. For at least three quarters of a century, doctors and scientists have been studying masks, desperately looking for something to prevent the spread of disease, but their many studies failed to show that they work for this purpose. The CDC agrees. Whether or not both contacts wore masks, if one tests positive then the other must go into quarantine, because masks don’t work for preventing the spread of disease. Everyone else agrees that masks don’t work, otherwise we would be our of lockdown and back to normal, as long as we wear masks.
The way the general public uses face diapers is horrific, because we reuse them and touch them constantly, meaning that we spend hours on end breathing in the contamination we were supposed to have washed from our hands. Our masks are not the sterile things in doctors offices but are contaminated fabrics that might as well be dirty diapers.
m d mill,
Repeat all you want. It is still wrong. It relies upon corrupted data, and it is right in line with the 1600% death inflation number that Gary noted. As has been noted before, deaths from flu and pneumonia have disappeared. Either they are no longer killing anyone or these deaths are being reported as suspected or assumed Wuhan flu deaths.
You assume that an increase in total deaths must be due to Wuhan flu, but the rate of suicides and drug overdoses have skyrocketed in lockdown areas, and other deaths have increased due to the lack of regular medical care. I went to my dentist, last week, and part of his checkup is now to assess his patients’s reactions to the lockdowns, especially looking out for depression. He gets a lot of depressed patients, these days. I told him that for a while I thought I had become anhedonic until I realized that there just wasn’t anything to enjoy. I now understand why some people choose assisted suicide. Life is hardly worth living when there is nothing but hope for a better future. Take away that hope and you remove that last bit of worth.
So much for the pursuit of happiness, in today’s America.
Edward
Good recent US suicide data does seem hard to find on the web.
The total US suicides in 2019 were about 45,000 . There has been no apparent large increase from this number from data bases using millions of persons.
see :
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4352
“Nevertheless, a reasonably consistent picture is beginning to emerge from high income countries. Reports suggest either no rise in suicide rates (Massachusetts, USA11; Victoria, Australia13; England14) or a fall (Japan,9 Norway15) in the early months of the pandemic.”
specifically:
march to may, Massachusetts state USA,pop 7 million:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.20.20215343v1ijkey=d80a0dd9ea00b890f6e810403195dd67c0ef3e6e&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha
jan to september, Victoria state AU, pop.=6million:
https://www.coronerscourt.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-10/Coroners%20Court%20Suicide%20Data%20Report%20-%20Report%202%20-%2005102020.pdf
Feb to Aug, Queensland AU, pop 5 million
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(20)30435-1/fulltext
“There does not yet appear to be an overall change in the suspected suicide rate in the 7 months since Queensland declared a public health emergency.”
[Note: the suicide rates in Australia are comperable to the US ,generally.]
Can you find any actual suicide data using millions of people that would back up your contention that the suicide rate has doubled, or tripled so as to significantly effect the excess death rate from 500,000?
I am sure you cannot, or ever will, but am sincerely willing to change my opinion if you can.
Similarly, even if 36,000 of these deaths are from normal flu (and it is easy to understand why this rate may be much reduced this year), it effects the 500,000 excess deaths but little.
As usual your comments regarding my posts seem particularly unreasonable and unlikely, IMO.
I repeat again:
Covid-19 will kill roughly 14 times the number (of the usual susceptible groups) than that of a recent normal or average flu season (of the same susceptible groups). From Andrew_W–“Over the last decade flu deaths/season in the US average 35,900…”
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html”
500,00/36,000=14 …ROUGHLY.
As to attribution, the increasing difference of total deaths/month from the recent(last decade) normal started sharply in about march at the time of the great china-covid infection increase and has increased to about 500,000 above the norm roughly. What else was the cause? Are the elderly dying at an increased 500,000 per year rate since march by coincidence?
It does not matter that many of these people had other diseases or were elderly and weak BECAUSE this is the same group that dies of “normal” flu.
Whether this is a flu virus or not, it is 14 times as lethal as the “normal” flu.
Sorry, in the recent posts I meant to type “500,000/36,000=14”
Sorry, 2 links had errors it seems:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.20.20215343v1?ijkey=d80a0dd9ea00b890f6e810403195dd67c0ef3e6e&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html
mdmill,
You wrote: “I repeat again:”
And you are wrong again, and for the same reason: you are using corrupted data thinking that it is valid.
As for suicides and drug overdose deaths, these are coming from individual cities and their newspapers that are expressing concern about these trends. National data is not immediately available. I’m not surprised that you are having difficulty with data, as you always have.
WANT TO IMPROVE YOUR SURVIVABLITY SHOULD YOU CONTRACT COVID 19?
https://youtu.be/oYK9-zvJF_k (In this Vitamin D study, 6.5% died V 15% died in the control group. “Very significant results”.)
Dr. Campbell: “If this information is not paid attention to by the authorities concerned they are in breach of their duty of care”.
(Dr. Campbell is a down the middle very objective person and is not swayed by politics or anything else but the science and the clinical facts. And for him to make a statement like he has made regarding the powers that be, that is a big deal IMO)
In another study reviewed and interpreted by Dr. Campbell, those people who habitually took vitamin D were 34% less likely to get Covid 19 at all. They were 6 times less likely to go on intubation if they in fact contracted Covid 19 and went to the hospital. And were almost 15 times less likely to die from Covid 19 if they contracted it. (I take 4000 IU every day for that last 10 plus years, there are now many documented Vitamin D benefits that now includes the immune system V Covid 19)
And its radio silence from any major American medical, government or media outlet regarding this now clearly documented inexpensive and significantly effective therapy regarding eliminating or significantly limiting the effects of Covid 19.
And the reasonable question is……………….WHY !?
(And the darker your skin the more likely you are to be deficient in Vitamin D)
And we have gone from labeling anyone who dies with a positive test, a Covid death.
To anyone who dies immediately after a Covid vaccination, as unknown causes.
Edward
My data provided on suicides is for states of millions of people as was clearly indicated, and from official sources, not newspapers. You never respond with valid data of your own, but pure conjecture, not on what is believable. And you either do not read, or ignore, or do not understand the arguments and data sources provided.
The continued shallowness and inanity of your responses are truly amazing, but consistent.
If the data is corrupt prove it, and specifically what is “corrupt”. You never back up anything, or respond to specific challenges. As I asked:
Can you find any actual suicide data using millions of people that would back up your contention that the suicide rate has doubled, or tripled so as to significantly effect the excess death rate from 500,000?
I am sure you cannot, or ever will, but am sincerely willing to change my opinion if you can.
Similarly, even if 36,000 of these deaths are from normal flu (and it is easy to understand why this rate may be much reduced this year), it effects the 500,000 excess deaths but little.
As usual your comments regarding my posts seem particularly unreasonable and unlikely, IMO.
To repeat, under the slight possibility that you may read and understand these sources:
Good recent US suicide data does seem hard to find on the web.
The total US suicides in 2019 were about 45,000 . There has been no apparent large increase from this number from data bases using millions of persons.
see :
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4352
“Nevertheless, a reasonably consistent picture is beginning to emerge from high income countries. Reports suggest either no rise in suicide rates (Massachusetts, USA11; Victoria, Australia13; England14) or a fall (Japan,9 Norway15) in the early months of the pandemic.”
specifically:
march to may, Massachusetts state USA,pop 7 million:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.20.20215343v1?ijkey=d80a0dd9ea00b890f6e810403195dd67c0ef3e6e&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha
jan to september, Victoria state AU, pop.=6million:
https://www.coronerscourt.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-10/Coroners%20Court%20Suicide%20Data%20Report%20-%20Report%202%20-%2005102020.pdf
Feb to Aug, Queensland AU, pop 5 million
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(20)30435-1/fulltext
“There does not yet appear to be an overall change in the suspected suicide rate in the 7 months since Queensland declared a public health emergency.”
[Note: the suicide rates in Australia are comparable to the US ,generally.]
I repeat again:
Covid-19 will kill roughly 14 times the number (of the usual susceptible groups) than that of a recent normal or average flu season (of the same susceptible groups). From Andrew_W–“Over the last decade flu deaths/season in the US average 35,900…”
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html
500,00/36,000=14 …ROUGHLY.
As to attribution, the increasing difference of total deaths/month from the recent(last decade) normal started sharply in about march at the time of the great china-covid infection increase and has increased to about 500,000 above the norm roughly. What else was the cause? Are the elderly dying at an increased 500,000 per year rate since march by coincidence?
It does not matter that many of these people had other diseases or were elderly and weak BECAUSE this is the same group that dies of “normal” flu.
Whether this is a flu virus or not, it is 14 times as lethal as the “normal” flu.