Republican Trumpcare passes House


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The Republican-controlled House today passed a replacement healthcare bill that would not repeal Obamacare but merely tinker with it around the edges.

Anyone who thinks this is an Obamacare repeal is fooling themselves. A repeal would be very simple. The details of this new bill are so complicated that I have not been able to figure them out, even after reading numerous articles, both pro and con, about them. In other words, should this bill get past the Senate it will do little good, and will only allow the collapse of the health insurance industry to continue.

Getting this past the Senate is another story. It looks like the plan here was to pass it in the House, so these creeps could lie and claim they passed an Obamacare repeal, and then have the Senate kill it for them.

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  • Joe

    It appears that the Republican Party are merely a different color stripe than the democrats on the same animal, looks strikingly like a donkey, I think the elephant is near extinction.

  • Frank

    The new bill gets rid of the unpopular insurance purchase mandate but provides taxpayer money to subsidize insurance payments to low income subscribers with preexisting conditions. The latter is not insurance but a hybrid public-private welfare. Its income redistribution.

    People don’t want to be told they have to buy something, but they want freebies.

    Its another lesson of the slippery slope of culture value changes caused by the left’s hand-out policies. Once these taxpayer or deficit funded benefits are available, they are nearly impossible to stop, at least by the current generation of spineless RINOs.

  • wayne

    Frank– good stuff.
    We are stuck with it, and it only took 3 months for “little, lyin'” Trump to fold.

    These people are incapable of controlling themselves & endlessly lie.
    >Texas Legislature is voting today on a Convention of States resolution, when they do, it will be the 11th State.
    https://www.conventionofstates.com/

  • Joe

    Convention of the states needs to happen, we need a little bit of federalism to return to the states, it is slow to catch, seems to be quite a bit of opposition to it under the misunderstanding that it might create a constitutional crisis, Mark Levin speaks often on the subject.

  • Max

    Joe,
    All my life I’ve been calling the “one party” system the repubocrat Party. When they step up to the microphone and Yell at each other, it is theater for our benefit to maintain the illusion. The elephant is not going extinct, it is “evolving”. Joining with the donkey to form a creature with two heads.
    When it comes down to the backroom deals you cannot tell them apart. They are destroying this country with the method of the “death of 1000 cuts”. Or death by a million tick’s, each cut small, but overtime does a lot of damage.

    Frank,
    Agreed, it has always been about “income redistribution”. At least their methods have been slower to lessen the pain and secure their positions for permanent, rather than Venezuela who jumped in with both feet and ran out of “other peoples money”.
    Why should they buy health care when they can get it for free? Especially if they don’t have the money… This is the classical “stick or the carrot” approach. In a way, they don’t really have a choice. You can call it fascism if you like, but the bill was written to force Americans down a path in which they intend us to go. Now the choice is between the blue pill or the red one.…. Which brings me to

    Wayne,
    I looked at the material, and watched the hour and a half debate on The conventions pros and cons.

    https://youtu.be/xHd1xUo-_XE

    Off the website you provided. I find the argument for “anything could happen” more convincing then “we will get the government we want” if we force their hand by conventional law. My heart sees the need for hope and change … But my head says “human nature” is more ruthless, cunning, and resistant to give up power. With the Congress, judges, courts, mainstream media, liberal arts schools and universities, and the other half of the country that are “not” deplorable aligned against us… and their vote, therefore, will count! Ours, will not. I just don’t see things happening the way that they should. In fact, the Clintons, backed by billions of funding from interested parties not to mention nations like Saudi Arabia will buy the seats they need to control the events. They have all the players in place. Sierra club, green, black lives matter, acorn, occupy Wall Street, etc. will provide the platform to hold the unwanted out.

    Towards the end of the debate, it was suggested that they should add 10 more laws to the 10 Commandments. After all, isn’t that all we need to make people more moral? Then the need for the convention will no longer exist because Congress will live up to the spirit of the constitution and what is best for the country rather than their own needs and the needs of their districts and patrons.
    In short, they do not follow the Constitution now. Why would they follow a new constitution? 10, or 100,000 new laws added to the 10 Commandments will not make a difference. (To them who seek power)

    The most damaging part of the constitutional convention it’s not what changes might be made… It’s the unintended consequences of releasing every soldier, policeman, public official and lawyer/judge from their “oath of office” which binds us together under the current constitution. (good people, doing the right thing, for the right reasons. Our founding fathers dream in the hearts and minds of all Americans)
    Without this glue which unifies us and makes us equal striving for the same goal, (Life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, prosperity for you and your children)
    we are truly set adrift with nothing to anchor us and anarchy, as we seen in the universities, will rule the day…
    Beware of people with good intentions!

  • NormD

    Cuts a trillion in taxes. Block grants Medicaid to the states. Allows states to opt-out of Obamacare mandates. Starts the process of allowing individual health insurance to be tax delectable same as company plans, which hopefully starts to move people away from employer provided health insurance (a truly stupid system). High-risk pools might stop the death-spiral inherent in Obamacare. in 2020 starts cutting off the Medicaid extended by Obamacare to healthy single people, who could work; gets it back to focusing on the truly needy.

    Just a little “tinkering”….

    Bob, you object when AGW believers make bold, sweeping, authoritative statements when they know so little about AGW. Why aren’t you embarrassed when you do the same thing regarding healthcare?

  • wayne

    Max–
    Appreciate that you would take the time to inform yourself. The only thing I can say is, a Convention of States is not a constitutional convention. The separate and sovereign States, caused the Federal government to exist, and the States are the only force left to restrain it, using the last legal method available.
    -After that, it’s all kinetic. (In a galaxy far, far, away, 90% of these people will be dragged from their Castles and summarily shot in the street.)

    I am happy to report– Texas did today, become the 11th State to pass the Model legislation calling for a Convention of States. The closer we get to 20, the more the establishment will freak out, and the more they will turn on us and attack us with their endless lies.

  • NormD: I object to claiming that this repeals Obamacare, when it doesn’t. That statement is a lie, and I really don’t like being lied to.

    Moreover, what this law does is solidify the precedent that the federal government has the right to set law and regulate these private business transactions, rather than leave it to the people, which is what the ninth and tenth amendments of the Constitution state Congress is required to do. You can argue about the details, whether good or bad. I am appalled by the acceptance of the idea that Congress now has the right to dictate these terms to us.

    For example, the new law gets rid of the mandate to have health insurance, but replaces it with a penalty if you go without health insurance for more than 62 days. How is that any freer than Obamacare? It is not. What business does Congress have telling me I must buy health insurance?

    So, I make no apologizes for my position here. We are being screwed, our freedoms are being destroyed, and I will state that fact without qualification. You might not mind, but that’s your choice, not mine.

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